they cant play haven.. its more like a haven problem

yeah NAVI looks kinda bad on haven. this one is eh i guess go next

Prolly not lmaoo

agree this %100, they overhyped LEV to death, they shouldve hyped Furia instead

moon raccoons sounds cool tho cmon i would like to support raccoons from moon

bruhhhhhhh

heres another delulu

Could discuss any of these, and maybe agree to disagree, but not Shao

bruh loud is very good but dominating entirely is another thing.. too much copium

i mean idk about Loud and DRX, but both LEV, FNC and NAVI has something to prove.
NAVI wants to prove that they are the "best" with cNed, FNC wants to prove that they can finally win something and I guess LEV wants to also prove that they are good enough to be here.

they just played worse than expected..also someone said here as the game progresses.. opponents find solutions to drx's gameplay and yet drx cannot answer it back.. and i felt like that was right

could tell from ur reply yes KEKW
also ty signing guy i guess.. like brazil too

XDDDDDDDDD someones salty, im 30 man

this, but i also thought they looked worse than expected.. rather would have NRG in top 4

why u signing every single post you write i wonder.. like grandparents who just learned how to text.. ur name is right on the top already
and what r u even saying.. what kinda delulu fanaticism is this.. what story u just wrote KEKW
ok LOUD is good.. we said they were.. wtf u doing

DRX played worse than thought yes. I thought they would be better too

bruh ppl do that to every team.. they can criticize people (unless they go overboard and curse or something).. its a right.. people talk.. what r u even saying

wish they were here instead of DRX also.. DRX looked worse than i thought

DRX looked worse than i thought though, wish there was NRG who made it this far instead...

NRG was bomb, they got eliminated bcs of ardis' choke at the end, if they made it we would be watching something else

++ gotta love a realistic fan lmao in this delulu forum

it will be a banger game.. I think NAVI also has a bigger chance but a slight one lmao.. anyone can win

i mean why not.. they can

being romanian is a hack, u dont even need to learn anything to speak a bit of many languages in europe

this

lmaooo

I would say still where Nirvana is for grunge is close to where Eminem is for rap (especially for an outsider of both genres). I agree that Eminem is not the founder of genre or anything but still very significantly important.

Def, as a massive grunge fan myself, I dont fancy either of these bands (I listen Nirvana sometimes tho, but not Soundgarden or AIC), and i would favor Silverchair, Bush, or even Pearl Jam over them personally.

I was going to say the exact same

Hmm I see ur point

Ange1 maybe

Love alfajer, but wouldn't put him here

If u don't leave Shao, Derke or Aspas out = list is probably fine

Asuna who indeed, for this tournament lmaoo

Scream/Nivera brothers? A lot of ppl liked them imo

Bruh i can show you 100 people on this forum who said Team Secret or LEV swipes and destroys NAVI %100. Just because NAVI was better than expected doesn't mean the bracket was easier. DRX's matches were in close level to NAVIs matches too.
Only clear conclusion you could make would be, FNC/NAVIs matches were easier compared to LOUD bcs they didn't have NRG. Or anyone who had it against 100t it was easier, lol. The rest wasn't significantly different

I think the reality is somewhere between in both u wrote.
EMEAs bottom teams aren't good, NAs bottom teams suck even more but pretty close, i think Brazil's teams other than LOUD showed up best to expectations (teams like FURIA, LEV).
"DRX better than NAVI/FNC and not even close, LOUD deleting all" =%100 delulu take, any of those can win, NAVI esp. looks bomb

ive never seen any moderator in this forum lmao im new, where are they?
im not even joking

thats right, but i tried to say for NAVI i would pick cned at the end of the day, where u would pick Derke if available, u said (if i got it right lmao)
in other situations/other teams i would %80 also pick Derke

i would write you a very long explanation but would you even consider it KEKW

i think a godlike OPer/good entry > a godlike entry, especially for NAVI, but agree to disagree lmao
bcs derke doesnt have that good op

based on any other not delulu persons opinion
hes right

agreed im a very delulu angel fan also
angel >>>> anyone

lol a super copium angel fan like me
#bestgrandpa

agreed, NAVI def needed that fast pace playstyle in addition, angel was saying hes even too overagressive at some points, and they solved it out it seems.

i think it might be a very USA opinion also, i would say in Europe or other places in world ppl would favor Eminem more

I dont know if i agree, specifically for NAVI for eg, everyone is consistent enough, so you need an op clutch king, very aggressive player there to push the team further

for NAVI imo cNed is better, everyone shows up all the time in NAVI and they are flexible enough
they needed someone to push their potential higher, that sometimes is the case also

depends on the situation, if ur looking someone extremely clutch its Cned, but maybe Derke shows up more in games? idk very close honestly
i think i tried to say Cneds highest potential might be higher than Derke, but Derke on average might be better, yes.

usually (including myself) no rap fans usually have a softspot for eminem
maybe thats why it should be ranked so high, i think its very universally catchy and well reviewed, i could never listen kanye west for eg. i dont even get the hype around it
i just listened ur first pick (hold my liquor) and i didnt even like it even remotely

same example, im a grunge fan, and i never would put Nirvana that high myself either

probably, since angel seems to know what hes doing