Not hating, but it's pretty clear that he was narcissistic and causing problems in team chemistry. I really hope he learns from this because it's such a shame to see a talented guy like that go to waste.

It's clear verno was causing conflicts but they didnt want to publicly out him too hard.

Brawk is actually pretty good. This whole team has a lot of talent, it's just FNS who is bad.

Verno is such an idiot. You have the privilege to play games for a living and you screw it up like that...

Why would you kick lev over c9??

Someone give this man some PR training

W man

it's not that it's unimportant, it just doesn't mark the start of the season in a traditional sense. some teams only got to play 2-3 matches. this is kind of an exhibition thing. by definition this does not qualify as a part of the regular season.

either way, NA is on top.

So, Kickoff is not part of the season?

It's not

only split 1 and 2 are?

the season begins when split 1 begins and ends at champions.

yeah this is just a kickoff event. it would like calling lock-in 2023 as the season. no, the season really begins in split 1 when every team plays each other and competes to make the playoffs.

OG Loud almost had the best player in every position.

no, the season hasn't started yet. that was kickoff. split 1 begins after bangkok.

you're right, but lowkey this white boy is singlehandedly keeping it alive.

yeah he is the first person to ever 3peat.

Way better than last year ngl. Shout out to Castle but Mcclung is too nice wit it.

that has nothing to do with this situation, that was an entirely different team.

It's not the orgs, it's the players. egos are getting out of control lately. like if you haven't accomplished shit then sit the fuck down.

he was good against mibr

I think it was because of internal issues and attitude.

it's not, you can find it online though.

someone needs to pick up poised. he is an elite fragging igl and it's criminal that he isn't in tier 1.

How rich are you??

They arent even the best EMEA team

You're right, I don't think I've ever met a competent sage player in ranked before.

brother if a player is arguing constantly with his teammates then he deserves to get dropped 😭😭

I get that you're a natank fan, but just face the facts. team chemistry is the single most important aspect for success. It's the reason for any team winning a champions.

I see all the idiots are exposing themselves in this thread 🤣🤣

you mfs would rather bench a guy for 2 unlucky series than the guy being a dickhead to his teammates and causing internal conflicts 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Typical vlr, let's kick the player for 2 unlucky series before the season even started and not the guy being an asshole to his teammates and causing internal conflicts.

C0m hate is so forced, he's one of the best scan inits in vct.

Appreciate it, GL to you too 🙏

Maybe don't be a dickhead in the first place and we won't be in this position.

Found out my crush already has a bf. But not a complete loss cuz I spent 2 hours destroying my body at the gym. And here I am doing the same thing again.

It must feel so good to hate on someone at their lowest. I hope he returns to form soon to spite people like you.

cherry picked. everyone whiffs.

please bring back breeze. i miss my free match mvps.

do you guys just hate all casters not named pansy and sideshow? I thought his casting was entertaining and he did a good job explaining macro and play-by-play.

wdym, his casting was fantastic. the only thing he needs to improve on is using the actual utility names, like gravity well. but it is pretty funny when he says stuff like "he sucked them off" lol.

aspas. he knocked out both my teams, EG and Lev. that guy is an absolute killer. he almost singlehandedly willed a mid team to bangkok all on his own.

yeah verno needs PR training man. i hate to see such a high potential talent get wasted because of silly things like this on top of already underperforming at kickoff.

I think those lists are projecting who will be great at bangkok. Your list is basically just a list of players who performed well at kickoff. That's why I don't think it is unreasonable to put less, jawgemo and zekken in a top 10 list for bangkok because I am projecting those players to play well over there.

finals record is an overrated concept. it basically implies that you value missing the playoffs or losing in the 1st round more than making it to the finals at all. chronicle might have won finals mvp but nAts was the reason they got to that point and he was much more impactful and clearly the better player for the whole run. also the luck-in loss was because of tuyz's underwhelming performance and saadhak's calling crumbling under pressure.

and the conversation ends abruptly when you realize chronicle was never even the best player on any of his teams. plus aspas has a champions, the highest weighted trophy. chronicle has 1 masters, 1 mickey mouse, and 1 asterisk.

you're right, 2023 demon1 tap transfer both in less than a second. i miss those days man, i really hope we get to see vintage demon1 again.

Tell me you don't watch the games. When he wasn't performing it was because he couldn't get fair 1s. He was getting util dumped, killed on entry or double peeked. It has nothing to do with his aim, evident in the mibr game.

160 games in a single act is wild. I swear if I had as much time as of yall I would be immo3 easily

I'm not the one who started shit talking unprovoked lol

It is the move. Esports is a business, this will bring a lot of viewership in.

TenZ has.

how many champions does pacific have again?