lol now who's coping

I can actually, SEN were literally forgettable for the rest of the year. Didn't even make it to shanghai, and every match that involved Heretics was insane throughout the year. Best matches in Shanghai? Involved Heretics (FPX, all the G2 ones lol, GENG final). Same for Champs.

2nd Champs > 1st Masters :)

Look I'm obviously biased, but imo staying consistent throughout the year and doing well in champs is more impressive than winning the easiest trophy out of the 3. Now the years over Heretics were way more memorable, successful and hype than SEN overall.

Its just the way you said it like its some never seen before thing is weird. SEN seem to like winning the forgettable trophies tho.

Turned out EMEA sent home every AMER team in the hardest and most anticipated tournament to end 2024

This is such a weird thing to say when there are only 3 international events in a year.

“It’s not how you start that’s important, but how you finish!”

Bro, literally nobody said that about M8. And people’s prediction on Apeks was correct (mid table). Also Heretics was technically a tier 2 team as well btw.

Im referring to your “Apeks got lucky” comment. Since you agree Apeks chocked on Haven, you could say - Pcific got lucky. So it’s a 1 for 1 trade, take away the “luck” Apeks win Haven, Pcific win Lotus, result of Ascent is the same - same outcome lol

following from cloudberry. Apeks were deservingly hyped last year being undefeated until the final where most people would probably agree Apeks were overall stronger than Gentle Mates. Which was also proven this year when TL destroyed them.
This year the hype of Apeks started off with the renown of the org from last year and signing renowned ex tier 1 players in Soulcas, Avova and Molsi. They then went on a similar run in Polaris, and now here pulling off what the 2023 roster couldn’t.

Don’t remember anyone saying that about Gentle Mates. People even criticised their reliance on Phoenix and not being able to have the same results in tier 1. I remember people saying last years Apeks would be fighting for middle of the table and they were correct. Team Liquid (3/5 Apeks players) were fighting for mid table.

Same thing as Haven

You can say the same for pcific on Haven :)

Since Day 1 of 2023 I wanted them to win, had to wait an extra year. But finally, they deserve it <3

Mmm, kaayak might have something to say about that. And Soulcas technically already has a tier 1 position. And Anguist and the other CGN players will probably at least get trialed.

Anguist cleared, cleaned, thrown them in the bin, drove them to the skip, recycled them, created a new bottle, filled it with water and drank from it.

not so mad anymore

Literally none of them said China. Its pretty common for any player to say those three since the majority of teams speak English.

Don't get too cocky after one trophy bro lol.

Everyone saying to drop Boaster. Who do they get to replace him as IGL? (literally anyone you say is a downgrade).

Ok? What's your point, all the teams were invited. And you had to have a perfect run to win. No second chances like Masters and Champions. And Fnatic still went on to dominantly win Masters after that. Saying its a fluke is literally what every hater says for every event XD

1. LEV isn't NA
2. Fnatic clearly isn't the best EMEA team this year

Anyone who uses the "Mickey Mouse" argument loses all credibility. It doesn't matter what the format of the tournament is. And you could literally argue LOCK//IN was harder since its single elim.

And "fluke" is just so opinionated and biased its just dumb.

Imagine thinking the seeds actually mean anything lol

Nice one buddy

Can't wait to come back here when Heretics perform the same if not better next year. This was always a team built for the future and they went above and beyond expectations for a rookie roster. You're delusional, and before you say "i've never seen someone say slurs over an opinion". "This is horrid" isn't an opinion.

"NA is much ahead of EMEA" Both NA teams got sent home by EMEA teams...

Second map didn't go to overtime

ooof

That IGL is better than every player in India

FNC 2-0 VIT

The Brazilian teams could do with having a few "health issues" rn. Then they might actually qualify.

Only being guaranteed 1 year and earning consecutive years based on performance is a huge positive imo. Ascension teams should only stay "into the elite" if they can prove they derserve to be there. And 1 year is enough for the players to prove themselves and potentially be picked up by a franchising team. Team Heretics have already proven both, 4/5 of their players were tier 2 last year.

Edit: My only criticism is, imo, it should work like Football. Franchising teams shouldn't be safe from relegation either. If they're getting outperformed by ascension teams why should they be safe? Looking at KOI.

Why are you bringing up the amount of nationalities? Since when has that mattered? That’s always been the case in Esports. That’s just how regions work. India has x2 the population of Europe so where’s the Indian team?

NA5? Americas I assume you mean

All the NRG fans mad 😂 couldn’t even reach the tournament

Depends

Happens a lot on attack sided maps. Could've happened to any team. They will be proud they won, and vod review to clean things up. Nothing to be ashamed of :)

FNC 3 - 1 FUT :)