nah you have every right to fire back, but im pretty sure 2 individuals baited about 30 brazilians

okay but DRX did, are you saying that FPX is a worse team than these chokers?

they're not real drx fans, don't let the baits get to you

currently 11-9 DRX leading, was 9-3 at the half though and DRX is on a save

asked?

but NA cannot win champs, NA eat burger too fat to move arms

bro got rawdogged by 3 brazilians in less than a minute

hiko ?

solid jinx

W
but *their

bro it's monday you moron

nah i agree with you, chamber has more bullets and therefore he's better than cypher (cypher gets no extra bullets)

*istanbul food

do you just have a notification on for any thread that mwzera could be a reply to

least loyal drx fan

fair enough, i just wanted to see if you were a baiter talking out of your ass

i respect your take though

what makes you say def? just curious cause i want to understand what you see

yes

i feel like you didn't read my original message. this is basically what i said

they have a high winrate on heaven because all of them are angels <3

@RickyIndian wya

if only they made it to playoffs. we would've gotten 2 more costumes

for xset i meant the coach is more talked about than dephh. for 100T i meant stellar is overshadowed by sean in terms of credit given to the plays and strats

benkai AYAYA

but for real, prx played so well in copenhagen because of their unique comps and strats. sad that it didn’t translate well to champs this year

dephh and stellar are also under-appreciated and overshadowed by their coaches

probably, the vibrations are what gave it away. boaster’s a smart guy so he could probably figure out why the audience started making noise

*top 7th-8th

DRX 2-1 LOUD
XSET 2-0 Optic (2-1 if bind is played)

this years champs has showed how long standing curses have been broken (optic loses their first game, optic never beating an EMEA team, NA team 0-2 in playoffs, etc) and i believe the 5th-6th place DRX curse will be broken too.

i believe optic is expected to win, but XSET has been looking incredibly good recently. it seems like their LAN jitters are much better (2-0’d crowd favorite fnatic) and their spontaneous team play seems a lot more organized and cohesive compared to optic’s calculated approach to site hits and retakes spearheaded by FNS. both approaches are solid, but i believe XSET edges them out slightly. bcj, cryo, and zekken all have the capacity to solo carry, while dephh and aryin provide really good supporting utility.

edit: i just realized bind is XSET’s permaban map, i predict a 2-0

Stop being an armchair analyst acting like you know more than the coaches and analysts that are part of the team.

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Team Liquid was able to beat some of the best teams in EMEA and held their own against a former LAN winner and finalist...

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Every person on TL was equally to blame for today's loss, not any individual player.

I agree with what you're saying. I'm not sure if you're speaking broadly to vlr or specifically to me, but i feel like the sentiment of my message is roughly the same as yours.

how is it copium? i don't care about team liquid at all. i just hate all the +player -player threads that are innately braindead takes

For people making threads about "fixing TL" or any team for that matter, shut the fuck up. Removing the lowest ACS player or your least favorite player will not make any team magically better. Stop being an armchair analyst acting like you know more than the coaches and analysts that are part of the team.

"B-b-but they don't make impactful plays!"
Why is it immediately the player's fault and not the strats or the coaches or the collective failure to counter-strat an enemy team?

"They lost because they played bad."
No team should have to rely on a single player doing well to carry them across the finish line.

"____ would be a better player than them."
That is all speculation and nothing more. Team chemistry matters just as much as individual talent, and if they don't work well together then it won't show results.

Team Liquid was able to beat some of the best teams in EMEA and held their own against a former LAN winner and finalist, yet all of a sudden they're a bad team because they lost 0-2 to a team with a home turf advantage? Today looked like nothing more than a lack of confidence due to a bunch of factors. Today's performance does not mean they're a bad team. Every person on TL was equally to blame for today's loss, not any individual player.

why'd you get banned LMAOO

a coach is integral to a team's success, he has every right to banter as much as his players. i'm not saying the crowd was in the wrong for booing, all i said is that it's wrong to call him a dick for that.

-1. you're obviously biased.

oh boy another EMEA fan claiming Pearl ruined VCT, i'm so surprised

they had a 3-2 final. that's not even close to being a decisive victory. the fact of the matter is that valorant is very competitive and the top 5 or so teams in the world can beat each other on any given day. it just depends on who plays better that day.

understandable and it sucks, but you can't complain about vlr refusing to put on the order flair either. there gets to be a point where excessive toxicity is excessive, but people aren't obligated to care.

nothing's wrong, but everything else you've said in this thread has been cringe as fuck so why shouldn't people downvote you?

just log off and reconsider the hatred in your heart for a little bit and come back when you're better

oh you're totally fine to be upset, i'm just saying where you went wrong in your phrasing. i'm sorry about order and it really sucks, but you can't expect vlr to give a shit. most of them are 17 year old losers who never go outside, don't give them the time of day and keep your head up

mf i'm downvoting you too
you've been nothing but toxic in a thread that's meant to spread positivity and explain misconceptions and now you're complaining about downvotes? genuinely grow up

context please

you never saw them against international teams, so how could they look like the most dominant team? that's all speculation given their matches against other EMEA teams. playstyles across different regions are all different.

i think it's probably cause you framed your thread like a copy pasta and it doesn't feel authentic

additionally you can't expect people to put on a flair for a team they don't care about, especially a team that's a recurring meme on VLR like ORDER.

i think that's cause split was so defense sided that OTs were extremely common.

the 23-21 game w fnatic and m3c was a banger to watch though

thanks for hurting my eyes.

+1

copium

i'm sick of hearing people make these hollow claims regarding iceland and fpx when there's shit tons of variables that no one can ever predict. fpx could've bombed out 0-2 due to bad luck. there's no guarantee that they would've won iceland. they were a great team at the time, probably a top 3 in the world, but that doesn't guarantee a victory.

i wouldn't call him a dick. xset is seen as the "enemy" and xset's coach played into that role by shushing the crowd and fnatic. it's all banter the same way booing is banter. you can't justify one and shame the other.

alright, i respect the clarification and i'll take your word for it.

it was kind of hard to believe at first because it was EXTREMELY silent for ayrin yet the claps were extremely audible for the rest of fnatic, i guess it must've been a noise gate thing. i don't think anyone rational is upset at the crowd supporting a team more, that makes total sense. but i personally hated the disrespect that came with no claps or applause for the walkouts since that's more a sign of respect rather than a sign of support for another team.

if they clapped for xset then there's no problem. fuck riot production then

p.s. i think the booing is totally fine, it's all banter just like what xset's coach did. people are upset at that but they're stupid for that. it's all in good fun

if only there was a pro player named and

thanks

for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

optic and xset played great today, drx and loud also deserved their wins

i think this would be the best grand finals possible. these are 2 teams who have improved greatly and i think most people wouldn’t be upset if either of these teams won champs