IDK what you smokin bro :skull:.
I speak Hindi and I cannot understand anything beyond 5 words that are common between the two languages.
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IDK what you smokin bro :skull:.
I speak Hindi and I cannot understand anything beyond 5 words that are common between the two languages.
Not a lot better. They are much better in some other aspects like the volume and variety of research conducted.
Also, the situation is a lot better in older IITs than in newer IITs.
Stats would say otherwise, google up some stats comparing IITJ for example with older IITs like IIT D and IITK. It's not that different or in a lot of cases even better. Don't look at the number of offers/students btw cause older IITs to have a crowd.
However, I won't say the stats paint an accurate picture. I would they are marginally better yes. I was actually offered all the IITs but I chose a subject of my interest instead of going to a larger college. That should give you an idea that the difference is not really that huge especially if placements are on your agenda.
I would go on to say that even the NITs and colleges like DTU, NSIT and some IIITs are equivalent to larger IITs in opportunities given to BTech students. Its only at a PhD level that it starts to make a difference.
did you find any better engineering colleges in India?
No. Go to a GOOD uni outside if you actually want to study stuff. If you are ready to put in enough effort and are not looking for a noble prize or a Turing award or something, IITs will suffice. But they are way below the international standards of a good university.
You don't need to tell me that KEK.
BTW I am already placed :) and under an NDA for now.
It's just that no engineering college including IITs is able to keep job securities in COVID.
However, you cannot really generalize a "Not a good IIT" with every aspect of a college. It has a lot to do with other stuff which does not influence Btech students at all.
Just to let you know we were ranked 8th this year in Inter IIT Tech and IITs like Patna, Indore, Bombay, Hydrabad and Jodhpur are at the top when it comes to placements stats. So I am exclusively talking about placements and not other aspects of an institute.
I think I mentioned it once a long time ago but yes (just ended 3rd year btw).
The CS you study in school should not even be called "Computer Science".
It should be called introduction to C++/Python heck you cannot call it "Programming" cause they are just teaching you the language and not "programming". Programming can be learnt without ever learning a language and that is usually how it's taught in universities (we never wrote a single line of code in our intro to CS course). Programming was only done in lab classes.
If you think that "Programming" or "Coding" is CS, you are in for a surprise.
In plain text - you cannot really teach "CS" without first studying hardcore PCM in 12th first.
Machine Learning is nothing but Linear Algebra which does not count your 9th-grade graphs and stuff, it includes Vector spaces matrices and other stuff. It also has a lot of probability and statistics among other things.
Also, you guys really do not value physics and chemistry as subjects. But I cannot emphasise enough that these three subjects are taught to you for a reason. I can give a few examples here -
In this year's Inter-IIT a problem statement was to analyze solar X-ray data from XSM sensors that ISRO has on the moon. It obviously required programming knowledge, but we had to go really deep into physics as well.
Also, a good friend of mine is doing a project this summer to detect droplets under a microscope in the chemistry/material science domain. You need a good knowledge of chemistry to do this.
In the 4 years, you spend studying CS you will actually be using maths, physics and in "some" instances chemistry. Maybe when you get a job you can get away from it but in academics and research at least to my experience, these things will never leave you.
Finally to your point of "a child is good with computers" does not mean he is good with CS. Programming and CS are two different things.
You don't need a 4 year CS degree to learn to program and get a job. You can learn javascript react and nodeJS and get hired as a full-stack developer in 1-2 years. It does take 4 years to become a computer engineer and get hired as a "Software Engineer" instead of a web developer.
Hahahaa LMAOOO.
Nope. Barely 20% of my batch has got internships and less than 5% of them are in good companies.
We only have 4 branches in our institute and 3 out of them are core/circuit branches including CSE.
Placements stats are no better.
Let me also tell you that these is the stats of an IIT with relatively better placements where your average CTC all branches is 16LPA and for CSE is 24+LPA. In the case of other IITs its worse.
dude IITs are down bad.
They are average at best engineering colleges. Honestly I won't be surprised if 50% of my batch does not have a job by the end of next year.
I don't think you are ready for that then.
How are you going to test subject majors?
CS? Do you know Machine Learning? Do you know Data structures? Do you know graph theory?
Same for Electrical or literally any other branch. All that matters is problem-solving skills and JEE is enough to test it.
I agree on the part that it's not everyone's cup of tea. It should not be a life-deciding exam but questioning the relevancy of JEE is nonsense.
The only way to improve the admission to IITs might be to introduce an interview after the exam but I am sure most of the people coming from small cities will be against it cause ofc, they are not "smart" enough.
But letting you know my first-hand experience, JEE is an excellent filter (to test engineering skills) and all I would want is a personality interview to be added on top to filter out these idiots who still make it into IITs.
Unless you are in the top 1% you have effectively failed JEE.
People can perform very well in their first LANs as well.
We have many examples -
Jingg
Asuna
Surf
Cannot think of more at this moment but I bet there are.
All fade in comparison to GodLike "Govt Reserves" Esports with a value of aroundd $11.4 Trillion.
Enerii is already at pro tier level.
LOOOL you don't want me to tell you.
Actually I can't tell you some stuff cause its under an NDA.
But you are mistaken.
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You want me to tell the truth?
Indian teams are just paycheck stealers who do not deserve 1% of the resources and fan support they recieve.
It is beyond my understanding how after conducting so many internal tournaments from third party TOs and opportunities to play in international events 3 times, India is still so bad at the game. 1.3 Billion people and these orgs cannot pick up 5 decent people to win tourney.
Unsigned teams with 0 facilities will shit on teams like Enigma any time of the day. They have higher salaries than SEA pros, have bootcamps, have coaches from EU. India is also the second most-watched sub-region after Japan ( almost tied with Thailand) so there is popularity and fan support as well.
What are the excuses to not perform except non-competency?
How are people like antidote allowed to play in a pro team when he is still just diamond 3 in ranked at the end of the act and the episode as well? People that play in tier 1 Indian teams have never even been to radiant ever in their lives.
All this because they won't let new youngsters in the team. Teams like Fnatic have alfajer, Paper Rex have Jingg and forsaken The Guard has Trent and all of them are very young and below 18 years.
GE hired Kohli and has still not put him in the main roster despite him proving that he is easily top 50 in APAC. He is an overall better player than Kappa any day of the week still GE will not let him play and put him in contract jail.
All players above 27 in India should honestly be kicked or put as coaches in T2 Indian teams because that is the only way we will grow. People like antidote who do not even have the motivation nor talent to even get to immortal 1 Should be just removed from the scene.
Imagine losing to a team from Vietnam 2 times in a row in APAC who are struggling financially and have a much smaller population than India.
All this typing only for delusional fans to come and yell give them some time and tell them that I am a keyboard warrior and hater for speaking facts and exposing these frauds.
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Imagine going to a foreign country/Imagine being a transfer student to a new school/Imagine being a guest at a party.
You behave like maple.
You demand respect.
I should not have to say anything else to prove my point.
Or maybe Aussies are just the most awkward people around which I would not want to believe.
The sad thing is that since the Org is from India, the matter can only be discussed in an Indian court.
Also this certain Org's owner has good connections in politics (the owner is a nephew or something of an important person?)
So yeah, TSM has a small chance of winning this. Still hope they win.
I do not justify this behaviour but hear me out.
This happens every game.
Ever thought how teams from Nepal/Bangladesh/Sri Lanka/Pakistan feel when playing in South Asian tourneys?
I see kids spamming stuff related to momos in matches against Nepal.
I see kids spamming terrorists in matches against Pakistan.
In APAC I saw kids spamming FemBoys/Lady Boys in EG vs MiTH.
Indonesia/Phillipines/Thai kids are no different.
The world is not perfect and these stupid kids will always be there in every region. Its a professional hazard and a skill to ignore all of this and continue to improve.
I personally do not send out toxic comments/death threats to players. I also do not encourage fl1p's behaviour. But just because WRONSKI is getting hate does not mean he gets away with the mess he created (ofc to be discussed in a civil matter)
You can feel free to somehow complain about fl1p's behaviour to Riot. If I get time I will support you for sure and I bet a lot of sensible Indonesians here will do that too.
Not justifying what fl1p does over here. He is indeed known to be toxic + racist. But you also know that fl1p will most probably continue to play professionally cause Racism was never an issue in Indonesia and India.
Being racist in the US is different cause when you are racist against a black man you associate yourself with the years of cruelty and the history.
Being racist in Asia is like "LAOS people eat fish".
Regardless fl1p should also get hate/should apologize cause he should understand the consequences of his words as well.
BOOM has been in poor form and forget APAC, even if Indonesia alone got 2 master slots, BOOM would still not be there.
The truth is, as revealed by coaches from both side -
Boom never lost scrims, they won map 1 and map 2 with packet loss. They cancelled the scrim on map 3 before even starting already being up 2-0. BOOM beat ORDER with packet loss.
WRONSKI not only clearly stated that "they were thrashing" which means something like a 18-6 or 20-4 or even 24-0 scoreline. But he effectively called Boom unable to cope with the emotions of loosing a scrim game and hence called it quits.
You do not understand how serious of a lie this is especially when it's general courtesy to not reveal anything about scrims to the public.
I think it has to do with Korea's 1 master's slot.
For a long time only 1 team has been going to international events from Korea. That means that only 1 team keeps getting international experience while the other teams are effectively region locked.
You will notice this is the case with almost all 1 region teams - Latin America KRU, Japan Crazy Racoons then Zeta, KR DRX. Even Brazil used to have good competition with us seeing new teams every masters. That changed when they made loud as a superteam.
TLDR; Efforts for ORDER members are appreciable however they should try and be more humble next time and APAC will also be more warm and welcoming towards them.
Honestly, it would be great if a new region trying to incorporate into such a big and competitive region would not act as big douchebags.
Let's be honest we all love Cinderella stories, the underdog upsets, the dark horse runs. ORDER matched all those criteria. They had a good star player, and very talented support around them and they have been separated for a long time from APAC to have everyone root for them.
However, you genuinely cannot make such posts asking for sympathy when you ruined all of this for everyone.
It all starts with Maple starting to queue in the SEA servers. Within 2 days he is a menace to 50% of the high elo players on the Singapore server. I genuinely do not remember a player of such menace in any server. I have seen throwers, I have seen hackers but no one had such a shitty attitude. To top it all off, he is a pro player. Ofc any player who has ever played with him wished for his downfall in APAC. Same for any viewers of pro players/streamers that had him in their games.
Wronski is an extremely young player and has a long career ahead of him as the APAC region will only continue to grow but you just cannot be so boastful about you being so good.
Ever notice the difference between WRONSKI and people who actually did something in Valorant?
TenZ won Iceland and never did I see him boasting about it and saying that he is the best or anything.
Forsaken and Jingg are absolute dominators in the APAC region yet if you tune in to their stream they are the most soft-spoken people despite the talent they have.
Eneri from Alter Ego celeste also is quite humble despite her talent and she is a part of one of the best GC squads in the world.
Do you want to take examples of regions that are new? Take India for example, no Indian pro ever was boastful about how good he is and how they will beat every APAC team. All they used to say is that they are going in with confidence (and that is how attitude should be). Noxxy and the rest of Alter Ego team TBagged hard at GE. However, did it ever get this messy? Some kids sent DMs to Noxxy but GE managers and players all apologized for this and it was settled in a civil way.
The same is true for literally everyone else - Yay, Nats, cNeD, you name it.
Let's compare what ORDER did -
1) Maple does not appreciate the fact that they are playing in a new region and went on with his toxic behaviour in a different and much larger server.
2) WRONSKI trash-talking Boom and effectively calling them out as such huge pussies that they cancelled the scrim just because they beat them.
It's separate from being confident and it's different from being so delusional about the abilities that you LIE ABOUT SCRIM RESULTS in your streams. Then he also proceeds to lose the game.
3) He even made a reply to my thread on VLR posting my honest opinion. Imagine being so down bad that you read and respond to VLR threads that might just be bait.
Compare this to what Boom coach did - He just plainly explained that he never lost to ORDER.
What does ORDER coach do? How does he even get the confidence to say something like this after loosing to a team with poor form and after their team has trash talked them so much.
I know as a fact that it is tough for the players of ORDER and the fans who had to wait almost 1 and a half years to see them play on an international stage but you just have to take responsibility for what you say. You cannot expect others to say nothing while you are the one doing the most trash-talk, especially as a young region.
I still do respect Texta, rDeeW and other ORDER members who have worked hard and their effort showed. WRONSKI is also talented (albeit young and inexperienced). However you just have to take this L for the time being.
Remember to not feed your egos too much next time.
Are you sure? Cause I can clearly see a certain someone saying that they will ride a train on people.
Don't make little 18 y/o WRONSKI remember this small stream for a lifetime.
was a guy with some country with a red flag in one of these ORDER posts cannot seem to find it now.
Paper rex is not locked in for champs. They just have more points than everyone else. If Xerxia get to playoffs in Copenhagen and do something similar to Paper Rex, they easily take over PRX and get locked in for champs instead. Same for ONIC G if they get to finals/win Copenhagen.
If Xerxia and PRX qualify for masters once again, they will be locked in for champs.
I will say this once again.
This is esports, if you win you can apparently get away with a lot more stuff than you might think.
If you lose, you are just garbo trash and your words are meaningless.
If someone does not feel comfortable with this, they should not be in esports as it is just an occupational hazard.
Things should not really be this way and I agree but unless Riot actually cares what fl1p does nothing will happen.
Broke 4th wall in the end.
Edit: And cypher did not die + Reyna made her first appearance.
That was an extremely fast reply
It's literally the same music that plays before every youtube premiere.
TSM will give a big fat D into GodL's ass cause they can hire the best legal teams and there is clear evidence that GodL and the player has breached a contract.
fl1p does this to pretty much everyone.
He did it to Rossi and Pakistani players and he did it to you.
The only thing that gets him away is that he at least beats the teams he trash talks.
WRONSKI lies and trash talks but does not win.
Keep in mind not everyone in APAC is toxic/racist players like fl1p, noxxy make a very small part of the whole APAC scene.
That website has not been update for a good few years now.
You can see Hellranger and Hellf in CSGO team.
Hellranger shifted to valorant 2.5 years ago and Hellf has been playing in Velocity for the past 2 years.
What else can he do now? Whine about it?
He and WRONSKI have been humbled real hard. If he says anything, just anything, it makes matters much worse.
First time?
Here is a hug from SA.
I genuinely think this is just ORDER burner accounts lol.
Overhyped my fucking ass. Go ask some of top 8 teams in SEA and they'll definitely say we could be a contender for the masters slot. We are scrimming them on 120+ ping and making it close and even beating them. Every top SEA team we have scrimmed has high respect for us knowing the damage we can do on the ping we have yet alone what we would do on low ping. We are not like Bonkers or Soniqs and it takes one vod review to see that. I hope to change all your minds when the time comes but for now have some respect on our names.
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I think we qual to masters dude, like boom the 3rd best asian team, we smashed them in scrims, not smashed them like we beat them and then their excuse is that they were lagging or some shit and they stopped the scrim.
GE IGL is not a rat.
GE IGL does not stream 12 hours a day.
rDeeW and Texta are great players and I have not heard them being dicks.
Its WRONSKI and Maple who are the trouble makers.
That is not what happened.
Boom beat ORDER with packet loss.
That is what happened.
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