Its high time you touched the soil under the grass.
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| Registered: | August 15, 2021 |
| Last post: | December 19, 2024 at 6:48 AM |
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Its high time you touched the soil under the grass.
Sit down on a couch, turn on your air conditioner, and have a glass of cold water.
We can talk about this.
TBH if you are anywhere around plat and I gave you a high ascendant/low immortal account it would take a long time for you to derank cause you will almost get carried by your teammates and you just pick sage and plant the bomb/throw slow orbs at the site you are holding. While on some games you pop off.
In fact you would actually get better because you expect new plays now.
You only learn when you are doing something slightly above your skill level.
As an ascendant facing TenZ you will always get rekt no matter what you do. The skill gap is just too huge to learn anything.
I once watched a clip of TenZ smurfing with Kyedae and her sister in a silver lobby in unrated.
The opposing team was getting rekt, yet they were trying. There was a breach on the other team. He ulted TenZ, he got stunned. A couple of ppl peeked him, they both got headshotted. Or he flashed TenZ 100% and still got headshotted when he pushed.
You could argue that peeking when you are 100% that the other guy is stunned is the play 99.9% of the time. This will probably get you all the way through ascendant. But not against TenZ it seems. There is nothing to learn here. The breach played that perfectly. The skill gap is just too huge to learn anything. He just wasted 30 mins of his time.
You are delusional. Ascendant is just a place for low immortals in the earlier versions.
The entire reason for creating ascendant was to separate these low immortals and actual high immortal players.
And then there is a huge skill gap between high immortals and top 30 Radiants.
TenZ is not your normal smurf. He can easily rekt even high immortals.
The difference between Radiant 500 and a top 20-30 Radiant is in fact huuuuge. You do realize that you need 700-800RR minimum for that?
Each 100 RR counts as 1 extra rank.
So TenZ is like 7-8 ranks higher than even a Radiat 500-immortals realistically speaking. This is the difference between bronze and high gold-plats.
Edit: If you think if you are even close to these guys even as an immortal, you cannot be further from the truth.
I missed the point, what are you trying to say?
Ranveer singh getting featured in games lmao.
You are in the US, where addresses can easily be SWATed.
All I can say is,
I can't quite see an option to create a Chennai VM at the moment + a lot of services are restricted even in Mumbai. Imagine what happens in Chennai.
wdym? It's a very active tourist spot + it has a fairly active port.
Amazon Web Services/Google Cloud Platform/Microsoft Azure and all other major cloud computing platforms only have servers in Mumbai and Singapore. Riot uses one of these services as far as I know and does not have their own physical servers.
So anything except Mumbai and Singapore is just not possible at the moment unless Riot is willing to setup their own hardware or these cloud service platforms open servers in new cities.
Don't take what these guys say at it's face value. Kappa obviously reads VLR and you can see from the comments on Rossi's stream.
There will almost definitely be a significant drop of views for a long time until a new player comes.
Also don't compare eSports to cricket. Cricket is highly promoted and a lot of parents will fulfil the wish of many who want to play cricket professionally (it's not as stigmatised as eSports). There are many cricket academies in India with world-class facilities. It also has an unusually large following. The Indian cricket scene can pump out top-quality players every year. Compare to eSports, less than 5% of the population has access to PCs and among them, barely 20% have PCs that can run games. People who have gaming PCs are almost always older than 18 which is already beyond the age you can turn pro. Most good pro players start playing at 8-11 years of age.
I doubt that there will be anyone with a skill diff as large as Rossi for a long time in Indian eSports.
Does not change the fact that the old GE with Kappa could beat RRQ on a map.
Maple rDeew and WRONSKI are really really cracked.
rDeew could arguably be a top player in international tournaments as well. He is just that good. Rivals the likes of Forsaken if you have seen him play. He makes it extremely annoying to play against. The only downside is ofc, he got team diffed in APAC.
VLT has a lot of CCs and actually decent ones (like Rakazone) who are not cringe and have been instrumental in shaping PC esports in India.
So its natural that most of the audience feels more attached to VLT than GE who almost has no content creation except the org's management staff.
A coin toss is fairer than 1 team always playing at a disadvantage.
This was the case btw for the last 2 years where all APAC tourneys were conducted on Singapore servers and Indian teams always played at a disadvantage.
This seems like a bright future no?
Undisciplined is the right word. Its not hard to teach ha player discipline.
Ofc, Excali will always be the guy to start the BM first. The smartest thing is to not respond to him.
He literally does not care about his rep, he will stoop low and drag you there with him.
Look to be completely honest Noxxy's behaviour is just like a baby.
I don't see Noxxy as a BM king. His BM's source is almost always salt.
Excali is a troll. Noxxy will probably get destroyed by this savage if he gets on his hitlist.
Sentinels need to sign Kappa now
Other regions have very dense server locations. EU has a server in every major country capital.
Here in SEA there is only 1 singapore server, 1 Mumbai server and 1 Hong Kong Server. You cannot have a fair game here no matter what.
1 team will always have to play at a ping disadvantage.
Also don't act like this does not happen elsewhere in the world. CIS and Turkish teams have to play on very high ping to qualify for EU qualifiers.
He could pocket sage MwZera.
People forget Trembo is radiant.
I honestly do not care.
All franchised teams have to move to Seoul to play any official games so it really does not matter.
I never claimed my net was good. I play on my college wifi which has very high download/upload speeds but is horrible in terms of latency and routing.
It also has a lot of proxies and firewalls added on top of it and monitors and packets sent to servers outside India.
He is one of the most reasonable people on this forum.
Yet for some reason he too is ignoring facts and believing hearsay.
Yes routing matters.
The calculations I showed is for the best possible routing. Anything in real life will be more than this.
Once again, I have linked some Reddit posts for you #61.
Moving to South Indian cities is not easy. Definitely not for an improvement of 30ms ping.
If you want to understand in US terms - Mumbai is like New York of India, well rounded developed city for people from all walks of life.
Bangalore is like California (silicon valley) but worse. Silicon valley is only feasible if you work in tech. For everything else its just too expensive.
Ofc you have factors that I have mentioned in #61.
Alright I will be honest with you.
You do not understand the Indian culture too well.
Bangalore is a tech hub since the state (Karnataka) passed an IT law very long ago which promoted tech in the city.
A lot of my seniors are doing jobs there but the experience is generally not that great. I can link to you resources -
https://www.reddit.com/r/bangalore/comments/qah511/my_experience_regarding_the_unspoken_but/
https://www.reddit.com/r/bangalore/comments/rrca6b/please_stop_bashing_north_indians/
https://www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/1f0thw/any_tales_from_north_indians_who_grew_up_in_south/
Bangalore and other South Indian cities are hostile towards North Indians which is basically like 70% of the population.
A lot of my seniors have witnessed it firsthand - Taxis refusing to pick up north Indians.
Restaurants refusing to serve people who cannot order in the local language.
Domestic workers and Shopkeepers not trying to help people who do not know the local language.
Chennai and Bangalore are in the same ballpark.
Look man, no disrespect but here I have actual evidence linking you streams and asking you to pause the 5 hour stream at any moment and look at the ping.
I have even explained Rossi's location and how it affects ping to SG servers.
While you or these other people who are complaining about ping have not brought any solid evidence to prove that Mumbai gets 55 ping to SG.
In fact you know what? I will bring science into it cause I have been studying tech for the past 3 years.
Distance to Mumbai to SG is 6700KM.
The speed of light in a Vacuum is 300,000KM/sec.
Therefore the speed of light in an optical fibre would be nearly 200,000KM/sec because refractive index of the material.
Therefore light would take 33.5ms to travel from SG to Mumbai. That is already 67ms round trip time that is the mimimum theoretical possible value.
We can also calculate the one way distance.
Valorant works on 128 tick servers so that is around 8ms on the client side and 8 ms on the server side delay added. Total of 16ms.
Accounting for the fact that your game is updating at 200FPS, add another 5ms.
Adding all these numbers up, you are already up to 55ms. This is the theoretical maximum assuming your ISP and network switches are perfect and do not add any delay (which they do btw).
Anything less than 55ms is just theoretically impossible unless for some reason Indonesia and Thailand has different laws of physics and computer science than India.
Mumbai > One of the best cities in India, easy connectivity, easy flights, easy communication, you can get all local Indian cuisine here, people actually know Hindi + English.
Chennai > 7th 8th best city in terms of development but only for South Indians. Very far from the homes of most players. Nobody speaks Hindi. Only educated people speak English. Harder to get network around the city + not many opportunities here.
Can you name these players? I am trying to put as many facts and numbers to prove my point here.
Rossi factually left Mumbai for Bangalore for the past 2-3 months because his 2022 season ended 2-3 months ago. His background has also changed to his home background makes sense right?
Who are these other Indian pros that have this unimaginably fast internet that breaks the laws of currently available technology and able to provide 40-55 ping from Mumbai?
Fair enough. I am not trying to spread misinformation I just saw some tweets. That is why I very clearly mentioned -
Ayrin - Already confirmed vs Foxy - I guess he is signed?
Cause I was not sure about foxy.
Rossi is in his hometown for the past 2-3 months?
I want you to send 1 screenshot of a player from Mumbai getting 55ms or less ping in SG.
Requirements > The ping should objectively be lower than 55.
and > The player should be confirmed to be staying in Mumbai at the time. Not like Rossi who is in Bangalore (his hometown and close to Chennai).
Do not send me the Rite2Ace tweet or something. Send me in game screenshots where I can see ping in game. In my justification here is a link to Rossi's stream which is confirmed to be from Mumbai (the black paint walls are in his bootcamp)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVD_kCKZtxo
You can very clearly see around 70 average ping.
just move to Chennai you get better ping
IDK what to say but moving to Chennai is not easy mate. It's a city with much less accessibility and options. Moving to Chennai is like moving to a new country but with lesser opportunities. Seems like a dumb statement. Living in Singapore you would probably not understand.
When I personally lived in Chennai for 2 years. Things were not like what you are used to in India. Everything is different. Language, culture, food. Its a huge undertaking for small Indian orgs like Revenant.
Apart from ping to SEA servers, moving to Chennai is an downgrade in every aspect for an Indian org.
Edit: The stream I linked is an really old stream here is an much more recent stream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ngq0S3RrW4
He is still getting 70 ping.
After around July he just went home since his 2022 season ended.
Packet loss and ping are different. If you get packet loss that means you Internet is shit according to how networking works.
Get a better Internet. Not that tough for pro teams. "mumbai server is shit" > Not TEC's problem or any Indian org's either. Ask Riot to make a better server.
SG server is equivalently shit for Indians. I get 10% packet loss and 90 ping where I am from while I can play with 30-40 ping with 0% packet loss on Mumbai servers.
Why were SEA teams so happy beating SA teams on 60-70 ping for the past 2 years?
The post would have been fair if you made a similar post 2 years ago for SA teams. Unfortunately at the moment, you just need to take the L and stfu.
Learn to take losses and not make excuses. I don't hear the players from Xerxia complaining too much about it?
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