Not going to lie so do I for all regions I preferred it when any team in the pro eSports could make a masters or champs this franchise crap puts me off watching one match league bs I preferred the old system too

Aged like milk 🤣

Not going to lie first map loss like that had me worried for Apeks

Oh it was just you said they should pick up tier 2 talent and i was confused when you mentioned n4rrate in that same sentence but yeah he was really good for KC last season

Doesn't n4rrate play for KC ??

The fact Apeks made finals last year they should have gone through that time so happy for the boys this time to make they truly deserve it

TSM must win 2-0 to qualify as they beat galorys so in the h2h galorys will likely be eliminated if TSM win 2-0

If TSM win it'll likely go down to h2h and maps won a d rounds won etc so don't think so right now

The fact it was 3-0 yeah had it been 3-2 then no but Pcific had the hunger for it and you could see it with their plays GG go next year

Rostermainia has been massive this year across Americas and EMEA it wouldn't surprise me if he was to leave he'd likely reunited with aspas or pancada unless he's offer a bag else where

Laifu said it first he's too passive and he's been around the eSports community for years if he didn't become worlds best then he ain't becoming it now that's not to take away from his skills he is talented but not world class like aspas, jing or chronicles to name a few (yes chronicles isn't a dualist but he is world class imo)

They didn't get completely trampled on by 2g and if I remember their last loss was close too their holding their own just not closing it out their not ruining na rep at all imo

** Correction : first loss was kinda a bad one tbh just checked

It's unfortunately facts that both nagz and delzik have fallen off though look at their kda both negative and by quite a bit over both maps unfortunately they won't be vct calibre with stats like that you can say they have fallen off in that match but I feel I have to be fair and let accessions play out to fully believe they are "completely washed"

Don't really know the other teams and their history only know TSM and M80 and I'm not even sure either will dominate especially how M80 have had an up and down challengers this year compared to last year so any top four is possible tbh

Lol fair enough

If I'm honest and not for regions sake but I want heretics to win as you said their will be alot of band waggoners if edg win but heretics winning will prove they have been a decent team most of the year round coming second last masters and winning champs would be better imo for eSports China's run to grand finals will always be cemented in Val history regardless of win or loose so they win either way on another level

Team heretics won first strike they've been relevant since the start of Valorant granted they fell off after that win but they have been quite relevant from the start of Val eSports

Have to agree this year's been Valorant best year for competitive eSports no one has been an out right dominant team which leads to competitions being unpredictable I've loved this year 😊

This thread aged like fine milk lol

Their are some truths to an igler isn't expected to frag and by that statement I mean top frag or be a high kda, they are expected to get kills don't get me wrong but thoses kind of roles are more aimed towards your dualists/initiators, their are exceptions to igls that can top frag but their aren't many out their right now, and igl role is to coordinate your team to be in a position to win and that takes alot of concentration which can act as a distraction to your performance which has been proven over the many years of FPS titles, how ever yes 3 players on a team aren't expected to kill against 5 that would be as you rightly stated doesn't make sense i think a misunderstanding of the statement " igls arent expected to frag" they are but not at the level of the other roles in the team

As long as scream isn't igl'ing he will pop off tbh he can't igl and frag which is a shame

I would personally get rid of the whole c9 squad and rebuild from talent in tier 2 hungry for titles

Players like:

Nismo
Dapr
Spaz
Flyuh
Brawk

(That's not a line up just a few examples of players)

That would suck if they made vct to be told you can't play in it like wtf

Oh right then I was wrong thanks for the info I thought the same rules would apply considering vct is 18+ lol

Most likely but I think you have to be 18+ to be able to play in challengers leagues not sure though

In their last 5 previous matches Sen have won 4 of them ...

I stopped supporting 100t a while ago and not because their not performing I hate the way they treat their players over the years alot of their players have been miss handled badly

I actually like your choices ide pick zekken over jawg but jawg is a demon when he's in form

4/5 yeah sure who's your 5th because aspas ain't no na player he's a latam player sorry to correct you but it's true

I agree this is icys rookie year and G2 must see some thing in him other wise they would have replaced him by now

Aspas isn't an na player he's in a latam team in the AMERICAS league na teams in the AMERICAS league are 100t NRG clown9 sentinels and EG

Brazil consist of loud mibr and furia

Latam consists of kru and leviathan

Aspas isnt an na player he just plays in the Americas league sorry it annoys me when people aren't factually correct

...sure you will kiddo... Here's a twix now sit in the corner and chew on it

Eg have only won champs that was fluke they haven't won any thing before or after dude bad choice of team to use

....flair...enough said

G2 is still a European organisation you can't get away from facts my dude you need a EU organisation to carry your nation 🤣

Lol loud didn't even make champs this year and I'm sure they haven't won any thing since the new structure started lol fnatic however have

never said it was a roast it's facts 🤣 G2 🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺

Lol keep telling your self that but the more you cheer on G2 the more you support Europe 🤣

A European organisation being the best in na is an embarrassment to the na teams ,🤣🤣🤣 just shows that actual na teams suck haha

Your forgetting G2 esports is a EU organisation they just have an NA team representing a EU organisation so win win for emea tbh

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Love how a EU organisation shows the na teams what a decent team looks like and for the record G2 is a European organisation lol

Didn't doma get released because he wasn't meshing well with the team at one stage him and magnum I think got released together didn't they ??

Patitek deserves a team more then scream tbh

Wish Leo full recovery and this might sound crazy but fnatic could leave him behind if all goes well with hiro not saying they should let Leo go as he's a crazy insane player but fnatic are known for swapping players out they've gone through a lot of roster changes over the years their not the same as when they were sumn FC coming second in the first ever regional majors all those years back be a shame of that did happen

You just contradicted your self Canada is NA which is apart of the Americas..

Fnatic fan here....I agree with you their performance tonight wasn't exactly great I don't think with that performance they'll make grands hope they change it asap for loud

Can you truly say his was peak fnatic though ? I mean they won which is fair enough but it felt really scrappy for fnatic which is unlike them (not hating on them I am supporting them right now but I tell it how I see it)

I don't know I mean split he woke up a bit better but bind he seemed like he was throwing dashing in and getting picked off so easily which is unlike derke I usually rare him so we'll but I feel this match wasn't his night he seemed off

Derkes bind first half was awful and fnatic overal had a bad game in my opinion feel for drx gg to fnatic hopefully they get back on better form for loud