He was radiant for the longest time. Had a friend that did his program and he definitely improved a ton. Assuming he runs a business and doesn't play a ton of ranked just like most pros don't play much ranked.
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He was radiant for the longest time. Had a friend that did his program and he definitely improved a ton. Assuming he runs a business and doesn't play a ton of ranked just like most pros don't play much ranked.
Why can't we just celebrate the success of GC teams making it into tier 2? They've come a long way and it's impressive to see them playing there.
I tried, okay? I really tried. I sat down, opened the Tab, and whispered to myself, "This is it. Today I finally become a professional G2 hater." I had my "0-2" memes ready. I had my "ego trip" tweets drafted. I was prepared to feast on the downfall of the most punchable personalities in the VCT.
But then... there he is. Babybay.
How am I supposed to hatewatch this? I’m looking for reasons to be mad, and this man is on my screen radiating the energy of a golden retriever who just learned how to dash. He’s out here being genuinely charismatic, laughing off whiffs, and being the literal human personification of a "Good Vibes Only" sign in a room full of people who think they’re the main character of a 2014 edgy anime.
It’s an impossible task. It’s like trying to boo a sunset. You look at the rest of the team and you’re like, "Yeah, okay, let’s see some humble pie," and then Babybay does a little shimmy, says something actually funny, and suddenly I’m subconsciously checking his jersey prices.
I came for the salt, but I stayed for the "Smeag." My hater card has been revoked. I’m not a G2 fan, I’m just a victim of a high-tier personality diff.
You sound like you're his friend. You post feeling bad about Stunna in all the threads but don't seem to know that he came in super raw a few weeks about and they've had to develop him from the ground up. He has insane aim but didn't understand macro or team play at all. The coaching and IGLing is what is keeping them in the game as the players develop.
Had nothing to do with Icy not being on the same level as Jawgemo
Sym did well in Faded's system but had a rough time with Potter on EG.
Derke was set up well on VIT before all the issues (Derke's stats were really good).
Stunna is doing his job as entry duelist but he's new and has a lot to learn over a short period of time. He has insane aim but came in super raw.
Purpose of the roster is to develop talent and he's doing just fine. Stats will come with time.
Basically all of Faded's duelists did well in the past (2/2) so not sure what you're saying.
Don't think ego is an issue with this team. Feels like they're going to farm once Sayo steps in.
Keep believing tweets made to the public. You know 99% of the time what is said to the public is PR trained responses.
Because I don't speak about topics I don't have inside info on and COD is not one of them
Babybay alt here. Get ready for the international smeag. It's 7am somewhere.
There are a few internal reasons but the only one that the public knows about that I can discuss is Trexx lost it mentally at champs.
Good for you, thank you for watching the games as it supports the players and Riot financially. Every view matters.
Not everyone sits in general admission with you
Yeah then what happened at TL? Did you watch him blow up at champs? Do you know what was happening internally during that time? Did you know that TL immediately regretted ever picking him up?
cool 👍
doesn't change the fact that you have no idea what you are talking about
Actually, I'm quite close to the team so I know what happened internally. You, in general admission have no idea what you are saying.
As someone who knows exactly what 100T said internally and what happened with Zekken, Zekken was not in their range. Rivals rosters are 1/5 of the cost of Val rosters. CS2 rosters are a bet that they'll make sticker money at least once as in CS, the goal is to be at least breakeven for the year due to 1-1.5 events a year.
I'm saying coaching was not the issue last year. A couple of the players were.
Coaching was not the issue on VIT last year yet you consistently blame coaching. Check the after timeout adjustments and win rate and you'll see those rounds were ~85%.
Pal has no excuse because this current team got rid of the problem players. They admitted themselves that coaching was part of the problem in kickoff. No need to worry though, Sayonara is a generational talent and I have no double VIT have a good chance to be great this year.
Try macro when Trexx refuses to play the correct spots because he wants to bait and Less refuses to swap his positions or even his lineups. Have you ever met Trexx? If you have, you would know.Blame the coach when some of the players are terrorizing everything. Lucky for Pal, he actually has players that are coachable.
They're a good team that has been playing together for awhile. Should be one of the top teams as the season progresses
Insane, some people are just gifted
How does he have a 155ms-165ms reaction time at over 30 (from his stream)? Man is just God's gift to FPS...
Yes, they can choose to keep him if they want. He has insane mechanics.
He was frying in tryouts. Literally top fragging every other map.
Internet at broadcasting facility is down. Pretty sure they are in Mexico so internet isn't reliable.
Where did your love for TSM and Faze players start from? Who else do you support?
He works for Riot now. You know the sample vids of guns being fired in the shop - that's him shooting them.
Sen seems to be the most caring org out of all of Americas
offseason would be the best time to practice maps
TLDR
Let's use your logic:
The "bum teams" you mentioned that Babybay played in stage 2? Let's see, some of the teams are Sentinels (pretty insane team), C9 and 100T, pretty decent teams, and NRG (this was the last game of stage 2 before they went to champs and won a world championship). Those by no means are bum teams. I forgot but wasn't he 1st or 2nd in stage 2 in stats? You know a lot of those timings that he took on Chamber or plays that he made, those were decisions that he made? Do you know that G2 is actually one of the hardest systems to play in because it's so fluid and demanding? Didn't quite work out for Net, Tex and Icy to name a few (they sure didn't have the same stats).
You say G2 is a top tier team where Babybay gets the chance to play and other tier 2 players don't. You say he is taking a slot from deserving tier 2 players. That's exactly it - most tier 2 players cannot understand G2 macro or play at their level.
Let's use Alvinboy as an example since you brought him up. While Alvinboy has a lot of potential and a bright future ahead, he is in no way ready to play on G2. He might be able to play on EG where everything is scripted but he does not have a full understanding of macro, especially at the level the G2 guys play at. They play a much more fluid system with only certain things being scripted out and it requires an understanding of the game at the absolute highest level. Let's ignore the fact that Alvinboy hasn't been through the tier 1 ringer and you can see him get nervous in a lot of pressure situations. Alvinboy is not even close to there yet, just as many other tier 1 pros would not be able to understand or play in their system. A lot of other tier1 teams, play a more scripted style of play (EG, SEN, FNC) which is easier to understand and play with the IGL dictating a lot more of the game.
I'm rooting for a lot of the tier 2 players just like you are. I'm dying to see Seven play in tier 1, as well as GMD and others, but it is pretty disrespectful to say that Babybay doesn't deserver a shot over other people. I don't think you even understand the level of play of the G2 guys. The system is extremely high skilled and difficult to play in - it might be the most demanding system because of how fluid and adaptive it is.
That's what makes JonahP so good. He understands the game at the highest level and no doubt will do well wherever he goes next. If JonahP were to go, you have few options that really get it and Babybay is one of those guys. Alvinboy would have no shot of understanding and playing in the G2 system at this point in his career. In addition to G2, VIT played this style successfully during kickoff last year (before internal issues). You know how T1 won Bangkok? They took VIT's fluid style of play and it worked for them during the second half of Bangkok. I was there in Bangkok. Another team that plays quite an advanced style is NRG. Bonkar is an amazing coach.
In reality, you have it backwards. Young tier 2 talent should be going to teams like EG where they can get tier 1 experience against the best in the world while playing in a more scripted and friendly system. Teams like G2 require much more smart and experienced players due to the reasons I mentioned above. Josh and Bonkar are 2 of the best, if not the best 2 coaches in the world for a reason and have advanced systems that go with that. Team decisions are not made lightly and there are a lot of factors that go into things.
Will things work out in the end? Who knows - there are too many variables and outside factors that go into a season. One thing is for sure, the people making the decisions are smarter and much more informed than you and I.
Have you stopped to think for a second that maybe G2 trialed a bunch of other players and picked the best one?
If you watch him play, you would see that he understands macro, his role, micro, etc. While he doesn't have that young cracked aim anymore, he's still an insane aimer that has really good crosshair placement and positioning.
For example, I love Demon1. He's an amazing shooter with insane mechanics that is super fun to watch. Was at champs in LA when they won it all. Super deserved. If Demon1 had Babybay's understanding of the game (Or JonahP or anyone else on G2), he would probably be the best player to ever play. Repeat: I really like Demon1, Yay and a lot of the other players.
Seven is also a really good young player who definitely deserves to be in tier 1. Has that young cracked aim, good understanding of the game, and is super coachable and just a good person. Someone pick this kid up, he's insane.
Trying to understand why the guy is getting so much hate when at one point he and Dicey on Faze were terrorizing teams. He used to be one of the most feared players that teams game planned around to make sure he didn't drop 30 kills a map on them.
You don't like him? I get it, but no reason to spread unnecessary hate about someone you actually don't know much about. Why was the caster to player storyline even a thing? Did you know that awhile back, he almost played for the Guard but stayed loyal to Faze (because unlike a lot of people he's actually a loyal guy). Did you know he was almost on NRG, 100T and EG? Riot didn't pick Faze for franchising which definitely changed the trajectory of his career. What you don't know is that even with all of that, multiple times, he was one step away from making his debut in franchising.
I get hate culture is a thing - he's old, he was a caster, he's having fun, he's actually doing the things I wish I were doing. How about we actually celebrate when someone is getting to live out their dream. Bro has been a pro gamer since 15 or whatever and it's amazing that guys like him, Zellsis and Nismo are still doing it. Live and laugh a little, life isn't all that bad.
Babybay on Jett would feed generations
I guess the massage therapist on an NBA team gets a championship ring too
100% he will find a team. Amazing player
Being that consistent is a testament to how good Josh is. One of the best in the world.
Let's just make the assumption he's toxic without knowing him
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