It's way harder than first master event for sure. More teams more matches. 8 teams event is honestly a joke compared to 16 team event like champs where most teams are stable too unlike in first master.

They aren't the same lol. champs is bigger than both masters and riot has designed it like that. It's champs>>2nd master >>first master.

True. Only started getting praised after champs. Otherwise he was so underrated. This is the only event Ig where he hasn't been the best in his team cause Izu and buzz just too good.

Well that happens when Cs dominates the scene and riot exists. Cis has so much potential.

Lol

You are now judging him completely based on one map split where the whole team's prep and play was so trash. Kk has like the highest fpkr and fdpr for a reason. He had similar stats in champs too.

T1 improved tho no? Also edg didn't look like their best this event so I think it was expected they would lose at one point. At least I thought max they would reach is top 3.

Lol bro is clearly jinxing the teams. He hates edg. And he also picked vit flair cause he wanted them to lose. This guy is the ultimate jinxer. Like Navi, te, vit and now edg. Jinxed every team he puts flair of.

True I also think drx will win champs. They just need more time together. I think drx edg and prx will improve a lot till champs.

Yeah get import coach as hc and a Chinese assistant coach.

Bro said he rarely entries when he has been one of the best entry in recent times. Like bruh do you actually watch the games? At least make the bait believable. Yes he overextends a lot and throws many rounds being overaggressive but he isn't a baiter.

I think they need to import for sure. Only coach I think is like top level from china is tabe and he is in lol. I have noticed it so many times in other eSports. The coaches in china generally are very bad or are just average.

It's mainly just koreaboos. I don't even know if there are actually that many real Koreans in vlr. Ngl those koreaboos are some of the worst fans in vlr tho.

G2. Want to see valyn win it.

Man so disappointed with the way they played today. Their prep and anti strat was non existent today. So many mistakes as a team. Also man so disappointed with smoggy. Yes he played well last map but bro was so invisible otherwise. And Simon needs to get better at fragging. Cause I think he is easily replaceable in cn.
Still 3rd place is great considering how they looked early on this year. And kk pls stop your overheating as well and edg improve your anti ecos. And I can see them changing things if they don't do well in Toronto.

Lol you haven't actually seen those people. There were so many hating on buzz stax calling them chokers. I mean most notable user you should know is zekathegoat who was saying that. And there were lot more such fans.

Edg depends a lot on individual form. And only kk and chichoo looked good in this event. Also yeah still a great performance to reach top 3. With how they looked early on this year I actually thought they might bomb out in groups

Still here. 3rd place isn't bad at all lol. You guys just love making stuff up to hate on Edg lol.

He did say peak edg. And this edg isn't anywhere near peak edg. Also bro improve your baiting.

Yeah still a world champ.

Who are they actually?

Yeah at least nobody has been winning some rounds alone but I don't remember a single round in this event except for that pistol against g2 where smoggy has looked in form.

Damm are t1 lol fans already coming to vlr. Pls guys don't be like those lol fans.

Man I am so disappointed with smoggy this event. Edg also should have won that haven bruh. They need to improve their anti ecos after this event.

Yeah with the form of edg this year early on top 3 is very good. Also smoggy hasn't been in form which has effected edg a lot too.

Should have won that haven man. Would have been insane bo5. But edg just can't win an anti eco.

As if t1 doesn't have similar type of fans. T1 is Korean team lol.

They should have won haven. They choked that so hard. Only cause for some reason they can't win a anti eco.

Can't see g2 losing with the map ban advantage. Also edg hasn't looked great today. And t1 map pool is concerning against team like g2.

Nah edg anti eco is worse than even prx. Check the stats for this event.

Now have to reverse sweep to even win this series. It's gg. They are very momentum based team. Also man disappointed with smoggy this event. He has been so off form lately.

Biggest problem seriously with edg is their anti eco. If they won that anti eco in 9-4 round they would have won this map. Man how can a team be this shit at anti ecos.

Saying edg are decent is really crazy after how they played that first half. They had no starts at all lol.

This is why I never feel really confident on edg. They can be so momentum based and look so ass. Also they are the worst anti eco team itw. Not even prx is close to them.

More like edg and anti ecos. Edg gun rounds win percentage was better than their anti ecos rounds win percentage.

Apparently Leo is joining g2 gc team after being pregnant for so long. This makes more sense.

No

If g2 loses this finals then that would be one of the biggest throw, bigger than prx finals. Cause edg and t1 map pool isn't good for bo5 against g2 with ban advantage. Also g2 has 1 more day for cooking stuff while edg and t1 will have to play abo5 tomorrow which can be exhausting.

Didn't apac teams look the weakest coming into Bangkok. Why make such stupid posts? Like maybe you can see the future but bro normal people can't. They are just normal human beings.

Even you know deep in your heart that's not possible. Edg plot armor in china league is too thick and they still don't have enough competition yet.

Which region do you think will have the most drastic difference in teams compared to Bangkok? China I think will be the same with one additional team among nova or xlg.
Apac will have an upset with one Bangkok team not making it. America will be -sen I think.
EMEA will have the biggest changes in my opinion. No tl and no vit for Toronto.
Kickoff will always have many teams looking sloppy and not stable yet. Split 1 is when the real vct starts

Well even if there was a plan it was shit. I mean It's really bad when sliggy himself calls your game plan shit. normally sliggy doesn't call out teams harshly otherwise even when they lose really bad rounds. He normally praises enemies rather.

What? It was expected. Many had them winning Bangkok and seems like they will do it too. Also bro is saying g2 is the last and biggest hope as if g2 is against the god himself.

Lol vit actually picked this map when the are this shit. Vit needs better coaching staff. He trolled the map veto today. Also horrible comp for vit.

Honestly tho tenz shouldn't have retired and won this event already making tenz the goat.

Honestly sen should have won against th in champs and won against edg in finals.

I mean you don't use reddit ig and you weren't here in vlr when drx beat sen so you didn't see those type of posts and comments.

True. Asian fans can be so annoying. Even though I support asian teams too but I hate those type of fans.

Bro is so delusional lol. Split wasn't anywhere near a choke. They got destroyed in it. And t1 got even 7 rounds cause edg couldn't win in a 5v1.

Yeah they were far better team. They lost both pistols and one bonus too yet the still won. G2 are so scary if they can win their pistols.