Last week I saw cNed while in line at the bank. He was wearing 13 rolexes and a chain made out of protein powder so I asked how he had so much money. He said "WATCH THIS", pulled out a glock and robbed the bank for $31,203. Then he double updrafted and dashed out of the store...

If they are stronger than other EMEA teams why are they eliminated from Challengers 1

In Stage 1/2 average number of viewers per CIS match was like 500-600
Yesterday Gambit-Navi and OBG-Forze had around 2000 each

We growing 😎

Why do you want them to recover?
You want them to collect even more points than they already have and steal somebody's EMEA circuit slot at Champs?
You want EMEA to be badly represented at the most important tournament of the year?

I hope they just lose to BDS / Vitality / Heretics or whoever will be at Challengers 2, so Acend / Gambit / FPX / Guild (stronger teams) have a better chance.

Vitality had close games both against G2 and FPX, who qualified
There's no way Vitality don't make it, 2nd team gonna be either Fnatic or Heretics

TL need single elimination to succeed LMAO

Thanks for taking out the trash 🙏

I'm sorry my dear Fnatic fan, but it is what it is

All EU fans must cheer against Fnatic and Liquid.
You guys understand that if any of these 2 overrated teams quals to Berlin, they boutta qual to Champs as well (because of Iceland points advantage) and steal 1 of OUR EMEA SLOTS, OUR PRECIOUS EMEA SLOTS!!!

No, Roadrunner is a legend masterbaiter, known in the past as https://www.vlr.gg/user/PussyJett

Chill out PussyJett

Yo let's combine Korea with Japan, 16 teams in Finals, 8 from one country 8 from another, 4 of them qual to Berlin

Let's see how many Japanese teams we gonna get, my prediction: 0

That's how Riot treated Turkey

So Japanese scene is already big enough to award them with 2 teams at Berlin and 1 at Champs? But Turkey, who have 3x viewership and 5x skill, are not allowed?

Think again.

Re-read the entire conversation fool

I start complaining about Turkey not having their own spot while weaker regions get them

Then your retarded murican friend comes and asks me how many players Ukraine had at Iceland, which is completely unrelated to the topic

He acts like there were the strongest teams at Iceland, as if Gambit didn't deserve to be there

Это получается Форзы будут иметь право забанить 1 карту из 6 т.к. у них лучше рейтинг в VCT, а НП по факту в стадии 2 даже толком и не учавствовали?

Или наоборот, тот кто пришел из верхней сетки позже (НП), тот и будет банить? От этого очень многое зависит.

NP are already top-2 CIS, not signing them is stupid even if they lose to Gambit
They won OBG & forZe who are going strong in lowers, that's the proof

One more win boys... Here or in the lower bracket.

Burger can't respond to an argument in a normal way cuz too busy paying his healthcare bills

Riot decided to give Brazil 2 slots = there were 9 br players at Iceland
Riot decided to give EMEA only 2 slots = there were 0 cis players at Iceland, but Gambit came close

Typical low IQ NA resident

You have braindamage or what?
I was defending Turks, not roasting them.

All these morons saying "git gud"

We can put dogwater Japan (2 slots for Berlin btw) into EMEA and tell them "git gud", let's see how well they perform

Crazy Raccoons wouldn't even make it past open qualifier round 3, regardless of whether it's EU, CIS or TR

Shut up dumbass Sharks and Vikings got shat down on Iceland too in a convincing fashion, but the difference is, BRONZIL WERE ALLOWED TO SEND 2 TEAMS STRAIGHT TO LAN WHILE TURKEY HAD TO BEAT EU IN EMEA. Fucking hell is it so hard to understand.

I'm not saying Turkey is good but if you give slots to Japan (OMEGALUL) or Bronzil, then please give it to Turkey too.

Turkey is better than trash Raccoons or trash KRU fuck off.
Also Bronzil getting 2/3 teams at Champs is ok for you? Why can't Turkey have at least 1?

I’m telling you, Chronicle is as cracked as he is jacked. I saw him at 7-11 the other day buying Monster and adult diapers. I asked him what the diapers were for and he said ”they contain my full power so I don’t completely shit on these kids“ then he bhopped out the door...

Jk chill out, I know the powerful fanbase that Wardell / Subroza carry with them
But Megastitut is best unsigned team out there, just like Entropiq in CSGO who couldn't find anyone for a long long time despite having great results

TSM should drop the entire roster, move to EU and sign Megastitut no cap

If you consider my last sentence an "insult"... Huh.

Bro?
Let's say that EU team comes as runner-up, while SEN take it all.
EMEA would have 4 slots at Champions (runner-up, 2 circuit, 1 last chance), while NA only 3 (SEN from circuit, 1 more circuit, 1 last chance).

But that's completely wrong cuz why should NA get less slots at Champs, if the best team in the world SEN (which won Berlin) is from NA?
Think properly before you type dumb shit like this.

Immortals were trolling VCT games (morons right?) with Shot_Up being Yoru on each fucking map
I don't think KCP is that good, it's just their opponents decided to throw for fun

Ah yes, the last chance in which the possibility of qualifying is 12.5% (8 teams)

Reasonable argument LMAO, maybe don't make shit format in the first place, so only the best of the best EMEA teams get through circuit, and not one-time flukes like Liquid

Yikes. Imagine preferring hype over fair rules.

How is football related to my post dumbass.

Loser kid visiting a thread just to spit out his anger on another user, who hurt you?

Bro... Like did you even read my post... My whole point is that Iceland shouldn't have happened, it basically destroyed this entire VCT year with all the issues it had. Either you make a LAN with 16 teams, normal format, normal points, normal slots, or don't make at all.

Why couldn't Rito just wait for Berlin till things stabilize instead of rushing it all for hype?

TLDR:
Riot fucked up by setting 2 international events with different number of slots
Riot fucked up by having different number of teams at Challengers Finals (before 8, now 12)
Riot fucked up by not following some set pattern in giving VCT points at Masters 1 / Challengers Finals
Riot fucked up by not making Masters 2 regional, as 10 teams is a joke, should be strictly 16 or the integrity is broken

Yeah I just have to hope now that Acend / Gambit will make miracle runs

These 2 are the only teams which have enough VCT points to comfortably overtake Fnatic / Liquid in scoreboard (in case latter 2 don't advance to Berlin)

Welp nobody gives a fuck, people only want to watch games and don't realize what's happening behind the scenes

Regional Masters 1 pts allocation – 100, 70, 45, 45, 20, 20, 10, 10
EMEA Finals Stage 2 pts allocation – Iceland slot, Iceland slot, 45, 45, 30, 30, 20, 20
EMEA Finals Stage 3 pts allocation – Berlin slot, Berlin slot, Berlin slot, Berlin slot, rest are unknown yet, but I suggest them to be similar to NA’s

Gambit and Oxygen achieved 3rd-4th at previous VCT, being only one win away from attending first ever Valorant LAN. As you can see, they got very little points (45 each), while statistically being top-4 in our region back then. Also, you might notice that distribution barely changed between Stage 1 and Stage 2, as 3rd-4th still get the same 45 points. No significant differences at all.

Now imagine if Riot give 50 or even 60 points to 5th-6th teams in EMEA Stage 3. I assume they could do that, since NA points have already been announced and we might get the same treatment. That would create a ridiculous fucking unfairness. Not only that Gambit/Oxygen had higher placement at the previous event (3rd-4th), but also that they gonna get less points than this Split’s 5th-6th. Inb4 somebody says “events in the past are less relevant than current events, hence why it’s okay to give away more points right now”. THEN WHY THE HELL STAGE 1 AND STAGE 2 DISTRIBUTIONS ARE ALMOST THE SAME? WHY DO THEY INTEND TO MAKE IT SO UNSTABLE?

Imagine this example: Fnatic become 5th-6th team in current VCT Split. They acquire 60 pts, it adds up to their 350, and boom = they are most probably going to qualify for Champs via circuit despite not even being current top-4 in EMEA (just an example), unless some miracle occurs and 2 of their biggest scoreboard rivals (Acend, Gambit, Liquid) overtake them by proceeding to Berlin, which is very unlikely to happen (Acend could do that, Gambit / Liquid not so sure).

Riot already made a huge mistake by even doing Iceland with less slots (10 instead of 16), meaning that it is much easier for our teams to advance from Stage 3 right now, than it was 3-4 months ago. It causes lots of problems for all contenders out there except Fnatic and Liquid ofc, who are in the lead by the insane gap. Again, Gambit, Oxygen and maybe even FPX got robbed hard because of reduced slots, who knows, they could be the ones to do wonders at Iceland if only there were 16 teams at LAN.

I can’t express my thoughts well because my English isn’t that good. But nobody except me understands how shitty Riot are making all these decisions. If I were in charge, I would go with 10 team format at Berlin too (although the pandemic is almost over and we can have all 16 teams). Not only this, but also keep EMEA Finals with 8 teams (not 12), like it started this year. Why? To ensure that the competition will be fair so Fnatic / Liquid can’t abuse this system by being the only 2 Iceland participants from EMEA, although it should have been 4 of our teams initially at Masters 2.

ALL MASTERS SHOULD HAVE SAME NUMBER OF TEAMS COMPETING. ALL CHALLENGERS FINALS SHOULD HAVE SAME NUMBER OF TEAMS COMPETING. ALL POINTS SHOULD VARY BY A SET COEFFICIENT FOR SET PLACEMENTS. Otherwise it’s a fucking injustice. I explained why.

I'll actually laugh if Lulquid get Rix.GG as their first opponent at Challengers 1

Remind me the score of Liquid-BDS Bind map when this fluke team could have been eliminated once and forever

TakaS whiff and further L1NK 1v4 clutch saved their asses

Poor Vitality... Much better than Rix.GG or Lulquid... Sad to see them go.

Ironic coming from a guy who intentionally bumps 2 months old threads and matches

Facts

FPX - Vitality

One of these great teams loses and has to grind open quals all the way for Chal. 2

While trash Liquid/Alliance are getting through with their easy bracket

Very nice 👍

I never bet

Liquid fanbase is the worst

Btw this dogshit team has 250 points, if these clowns somehow qualify even to Challengers Finals (not even talking about Berlin), they might steal a bit more points and lock in Champs instead of a better EMEA representative. Fuck this system. Iceland shouldn't have given so many points.

Nah, look up CIS bracket, it's reversed. Loser of Guild-FPX plays Vita-Tenstar, loser of Acend-BDS plays Nip-Finest etc.

Cap.
Their next opponent is the loser of Alliance/Liquid. Alliance dropped maps to random tier2 teams while in open qualifiers, and Liquid is just overrated.

ACEND GOT ELIMINATED BECAUSE THERE WAS NO DOUBLE ELIM

Sentinels fanboy doesn't understand that if NA format was the same as ours, your favourite team would finish the VCT run after losing to Andbox lul

Own those frauds Rix.GG