Nice I won't have to watch matches during midnight
Bad for east-asian fans though, horrible timings for them

If PRX get last place in their group (which is very likely cuz other 3 teams are monsters), who's going to Champions with X10 from SEA?
https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/2021/Circuit_Points/Southeast_Asia

Why they should be the team to replace them:

1. Won #1 EMEA (Gambit) in not a close game (13-4)
2. Literally 10ft from their home
3. krea6on vs Tenz

Obnoxious Liquid fans acquired all hopium available and now begging for a 5th EMEA spot (???) and over Giants for some reason (???) even though both teams got equal results at Stage 3, and we don't care what happened in Challengers 2

Just shut up already, it's getting embarassing
Result is a result, thus Giants = Liquid

Your comment is irrelevant

What I'm saying is that Acend have a better shot at Champions than SMB, the latter will prolly go to Last Chance unless they're getting top-2 at Masters

Acend going top-8 -> cNed at Champions, SMB at LCQ
SMB going top-8, but not going top-2 -> all Turkish players at LCQ

It's up to you who to support, but for me it's kinda obvious :/

Teach* not taught
Funny I know English better than a brit

You just don't get it... Groups of death are okay in non-qualifier tourneys when it's just all about prize pool and it's a final tourney of the year... But here you get super mega important VCT points.

Vision Strikers get out of groups = Champions qualification over Nuturn.
Acend get out of groups = Champions qualification over Fnatic.

Do you want to see Acend or Fnatic at Champions (with Gambit)? Do you want to see VS or Nuturn at Champions? Who do you think is a better team currently and deserves this spot more? The answer is obvious.

GROUPS OF DEATH ARE NOT GOOD IN QUALIFIER EVENTS.

I think it's better for Turkish fans to root for Acend this time around :/

See, they have a much better chance of going to Champions alongside Gambit, they just need to make playoffs and that's it, while SMB would have to get into the grand final

Otherwise Fnatic gonna steal a spot :(

You should be grateful that at least Envy is there

It could be SEA's 2nd team instead, and Envy in Group A, as both are 4th pool xD

https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/esports/vct-stage-3-masters-everything-you-need-to-know/

How on earth are VK and GMB same group if both from Pool 1? Are they dumb?
"Riot is better than Valve" fanboys where you at?

Thank god Gambit didn't throw seeding matches

Do you realize Acend would need to bomb out last in the group for Liquid to make it by circuit? And that's impossible when you have Paper Rex in it.

Also I hope the best for Acend, imagine if Fnatic makes Champions while playing like shit at the latest Stage.

Win, lose or tie
Gambit till we die!

I hope SMB win Berlin, Gambit / Acend both finish at least top-8, so all 3 make Champs without LCQ bullshit

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Zeta is weaker than VK, PRX and KRU

What if they seed Brazil #1 above Korean #1 or some other shit like this, and there will be a group of death - NA team, EMEA team and of course Vision Strikers, only 2 can make it out of it

So 1st one gonna get Vision Strikers group, who are way way better than Envy?

Lmfao good luck

You acting like #1-2 SEA / JP teams are better than #5-7 EMEA teams

Funny

But do you want to see Havan or weaker Furia / Sharks at Champions? That's it, that's the question.

I'm no BR but apparently if Furia qualifies, Havan Liberty (best team in their region) will have to go to LCQ, there's no way they overcome either VKS or Furia, both these teams been earning lots of points since Stage 1 and Havan is kinda new and has way less earnings

But if VK qualify, Havan have a pretty easy task - get into top-12 and they're going to be higher than Sharks and (most likely) higher than VK, as well as higher than Furia (who doesn't qualify in this case)

So Havan fans should cheer against Furia, that's it

CIS boutta own the world

First CIS vs TR match since Gambit - BBL

Trust me

I watch VAL every single day, tons of hours
The Valorant played by Gydom Galva is the most beautiful I've seen in this FPS short history

Is it official Riot regions distribution or is it you making preds?

I'm confused, group C is much stronger than D, also A is kinda trash too except NA #1

And that's why Liquid fans should stop whining and complaining, everything is fair, they lost to Navi who turned out to be weaker than Giants

Liquid got a harder lower bracket because they lost to Navi in uppers

If only they won that match (and lost to Acend later), they would be put into the Giants / Guild / G2 LB and wouldn't need to beat Gambit in a do or die match

It's nobody's but Liquid's fault, they should have taken upper bracket matches more seriously

Let's go for that seeding

Funny that throw against Navi brought them into much harder bracket (with Gambit), otherwise they would go Berlin and subsequently Champions for sure

Nah, I never said I want Berlin to give away up to 450 or something like that points, that's obviously too much and is not fair to teams which worked hard since the beginning of the year (Acend, Gambit).

But at least they could make Berlin slightly more valuable than it's right now... You get what I mean. Fnatic situation.

Agreed, circuit distribution is flawed this year, 2nd at Iceland gets more pts than 3rd-4th at Berlin, also Berlin has more participants (16 > 10) + is more recent tournament with stronger teams. Joke.

You just don't understand me man.

If Liquid went to Berlin by winning G2 / Giants = default Champions qualification by circuit.

In that case, unless EMEA wins Berlin (not gonna happen imo, NA is so much stronger), only 1 team of Acend and Gambit can go to Champs without LCQ grind, because there are only 2 circuit spots for EMEA (we assume Liquid already took 1).

But both Acend and Gambit are better than Liquid right? It wouldn't be fair if Liquid qualified directly and 1 of these 2 didn't.

?

I wanna see the best of the best teams at Champs man, if Liquid is worse than Gambit and Acend, I don't wanna see them getting a free spot through an easier bracket and going to Berlin + Champions, they gotta smash LCQ to prove everyone otherwise

I'm happy TL got harder bracket and didn't make it, cuz they would have went to Champs straight away and would have stolen Acend / Gambit spot

If only they won that "meaningless Navi match", everything would change

Acend had koldamenta who was clearly the problem, zeek changed them so much in a positive way.

Blaze and new G2 didn't even exist at that point of time.

FPX and Guild - you see where they are now, it was the same back then, Shao&Zyppan vs world and Guild 4v5 every game.

You could make an argument of Gambit being better than Liquid during Stage 2, but Gambit lost to FPX once and Liquid smashed them 13-7 13-5, so...

Berlin will be tougher than Champions for sure. Vikings / X10 / Crazy Raccoon will all be at Los Angeles, cuz they farmed points when the game was less competitive, even though right now they are not even the best in their regions (Furia, Havan Liberty, Sharks, Paper Rex, Big Baam, Bren, Zeta).

The only possible scenario of Liquid going to Champs without LCQ - Acend place 16th at Berlin, while Blaze / G2 / Giants don't get into top-4, and also Gambit must win Berlin so Gambit / Fnatic / Liquid go all together to LA (Gambit by winning Berlin, Fnatic and Liquid by circuit)

In other words, it's impossible

He is tatar = Turkic family

But imagine if Acend get top-8 and Blaze top-2. Both would have 375 pts, but who would qualify?

Gambit get top-12 - Fnatic is left behind, Blaze / G2 / Giants need to get top-2 in that case to overcome Gambit

Gambit get top-8 - we are going to Champions regardless of other results

IMO Acend and Gambit will make it by circuit, Blaze is super strong too, but they are a new team and they don't have 100 / 145 pts advantage like Acend / Gambit have

I'm happy TL didn't go into other LB cuz in that case they could qualify and steal Champs spot from Gambit or Acend (there are only 2 circuit spots for EMEA)

So proud of this team, been supporting since April and finally the boys achieve something significant <3

Waiting for nAts vs dapr

WE GET TOP12 BERLIN WE SURPASS FNATIC
WE GET TOP8 BERLIN WE GO LOS ANGELES CUZ BLAZE AND G2 WON'T CATCH UP

AAAAAAAAAAAA

Usually it was Liquid winning all the clutches, now it's their opponent...

This match is not only for Berlin spot, but also for Champions spot man...

Realistically speaking, whoever wins it, Gambit or Liquid - will easily overcome Fnatic, SMB, G2 / Guild / Giants by circuit, cuz both these teams already have 145 and 250 points respectively...

Of course Acend will attend Champions too (they have 100 points + will get much more at Berlin), but this game decides the 2nd team from EMEA who is going straight to Los Angeles without having to worry about last chance bullshit...

I just hope Gambit do their best and we will have CIS representation at the last 2 tournaments of the year. ScreaM and Liquid have already had enough LANs, it's time for the young boys to shine.

Win, lose or tie
Gambit till we die!

Always believe
Icebox is ours

I knew you were plastic fan

I think he cheers for SEN just because if they win Berlin TSM will be in LCQ

Beating Guild 2-0 ain't enough proof of Gambit being top-contender?
But of course I can bandwagon SEN (best team in the world) and shit talk everyone else cuz they are worse than my team xDDD