I don't bet?

If Gambit won Fnatic in 2021 Stage 2, Fnatic wouldn't qual to Iceland, wouldn't get 350 points, wouldn't go to Champions and we probably would never see the same Fnatic roster again (-Boaster, -Magnum, -Mistic)

There are so many IFs in this world that you can make thousands of different timelines with different destinies

SEN is not qualifying

FNC will play with otom instead of brave and shit the bed, being the worst EMEA team once again

The state of Valorant = win both pistols and you win the map
This is how Fnatic won today

Actually Guild won more full-buy vs full-buy rounds on Split yet lost lmfaooo, nice esport

How do you go from almost qualifying to EMEA to not making playoffs in one of the weakest VRLs

This is tragic

Again, the format (only 5 Bo3s) and the treatment of EMEA (3 slots) is so miserable and horrific that I want to cry when I think about it

But hey South America have 4 slots while 3 times less server population and 3 times less international success

To be in EMEA LCQ just to play 2 games and go home again?

If Riot gave EMEA 6 slots to every event (what we should get), maybe it would be better for BIG to try and stay in VCT, maybe they would qualify for LAN

But it's fucking 3 for Masters and 3 for Champions (1 LCQ slot), there's no way BIG makes it anywhere

Riot screwed EMEA and tier2 teams are better off in their own leagues, Riot decided to promote trash South America and Asia instead

I don't think BIG or SMB want to return to EMEA to be honest 😂

You can play 5 Bo3s and then have nothing after (you won't make playoffs), or you can stay in tier2, play a lot more games, win VRL, go to VRL Finals later, try to win VRL Finals...

A lot more content for a team like BIG if they play in tier2 rather than in tier1

Maybe it doesn't make sense to throw away higher league, but I would do that if I were BIG, they simply have no chance against top dogs like Gambit and FPX

Wow Fnatic won pistol + spectres + 2 anti-ecos + a single gun round

WHAT A HUGE LEAD HOW FNATIC BLOW THAT TO 5-13

Very unlikely because format favours them a lot

They are already in playoffs and have BYEs, whereas every other team will have to go through double elim groups first and no BYE

Map diff between tied teams

Navi win:

Navi and FPX to playoffs, because Liquid has worse map diff than them in head-to-heads between Navi, FPX, TL

This assuming Gambit go 4-1

If Navi win

Navi 3-2
Liquid 3-2
FPX 3-2

Navi 2-0 or 2-1 FPX
FPX 2-0 Liquid
Liquid 2-1 Navi

Maps difference between the 3:
FPX 1 or 0
Navi 1 or 0
Liquid -1 (lowest, no playoffs)

FPX throw to spite Liquid? 👀

NA playoffs are shit because C9 and V1, 1st places, don't get any advantage over others for being the best in their groups and not losing a single game, same goes for Guard / Optic as well (2nd places)

In other words, C9 and LG are in the same position although first went 5-0 and second went 2-3

IMO best playoffs format:
A1, A2, B1, B2 - upper bracket (A1xB2, A2xB1)
A3, A4, B3, B4 - lower bracket (A3xB4, A4xB3)
A5, A6, B5, B6 - eliminated

LATAM did very well and I like their playoffs, something like that would be great in all leagues

Disappointed? FYI Full Sense were in the group of death with EMEA team, NA team and Vision Strikers

They probably would've made playoffs if they were in C, and at least 3rd place in A / B

I mean look at Secret, 25-32 yo boomers not even top-4 in PH and they still had enough power to beat the shit out of Vikings and Raccoons

Ngl so glad to see chunks of money get eliminated and grinders qualify

Both Rebels and Case deserve to be in VRL Promotion

If SEN actually make it after streaming full-time, practicing 2 hours per day and keeping diamond zombs on the roster, NA should disband as a region, nothing would save NA at that point

Though I believe right now NA has gained some depth with teams like V1 and Guard popping off and doing much better than before

What makes you think teams in 2nd division are weaker than, say, Bisons or Arctic

"La Bisoneta" went 2-7 during round robin and 0-2 during relegation lol

Both their wins were against other 2 weakest teams (Arctic, Heretics) and 13-10 16-14

https://www.vlr.gg/67525/case-esports-vs-retired-flavour-vrl-spain-rising-qf/?game=all&tab=overview
FFS
Wygers pushed Case harder than most teams in VRL Spain did
19esports were really good in VCT quals and made it pretty far

A team that wasn't even supposed to be here is now in grand finals

What a dogshit paid league

Will be funny if Rebels also make it (rooting for them), then none of 8 "investors" would have reached VRL final

They really brainwash you stupid muricans to hate all russians and eastern europeans as if we're some kind of rubbish

The game is too random and has low ceiling, 13 rounds to win and that including pistols/follow-ups/ecos, garbage economy rewards momentum too much, if you take both pistols you can already celebrate the victory lol

Anyway EMEA will dominate because we have bigger talent pool than any other region, Riot is trying to choke us by only giving 3 slots to events while shit regions receive more attention, but they won't shut down the EMEA supremacy

Almost all EU countries including Iceland closed airspace to russian planes, not only that but I think there are lots of complications when a russian guy tries to enter one of these countries

If Fnatic qualify they'll probably play with otom and have much worse results

In NA teams got better too, we would never think V1 and Guard would become this good

KRU also overperformed but they won SEN and Fnatic, very fucking decent teams

Secret won bad teams, lost to grand-finalists and you SEA copiums use this as a justification

Are you implying Secret was stronger than SEN at Champions? Because I find that very hard to believe in.

SEN still a solid top-4/5 team in NA, no matter what you say, they are not THAT bad.
Secret failed to make it to APAC (failed to become top-3 in PH), which definitely makes me think that Secret results at Champions were much more than they should have got.

Also Action PH finished 3 spots above Secret in PH, and this same Action PH got fucking destroyed 13-3 13-5 by Full Sense, lmao.

If Champions groups were equal, there would be 2 NA and 1 SEA in playoffs (C9, SEN, X10)

Every sane guy knows that Secret fluked because of BR/JP teams in their group + every sane guy knows that SEN got lower result than they deserved, because TL and KRU both semifinalists

#5 said Kiles has mental damage because of war

Kiles as a pro player should be able to handle these side things much better than me a normal guy

Especially after the whole of BR bullied him and the rest of Acend throughout the entire Champions tournament, that was much bigger pressure than a war in a country he doesn't even live in (he's in Spain)

Sadge for purp0, very good player but his teams always fail during crucial moments

What mental damage haha you're overreacting bro

I was forced to move out of my city where there are bombings and shit, and I have no "mental damage" at all

I think he just wants to see his team play more games

VCT system so fucking bad that EMEA teams who miss playoffs BUT are not 6th won't do anything until June VCT

Every team strives to play in VCT, it's what BIG grinded qualifiers for... While I agree that format is shit (only 5 games for BIG per this split), it's still not a reason to drop down to the lower division.

Teams who remain in the league will collect more VCT points and will at least go to EMEA LCQ at the end of the year.

You really think competing in DACH against tier3 is better?

W coach good luck

Just want to clarify:

Guild win -> 1st seed in group B over Fnatic (head-to-head result), 1 win and they go to Reykjavik

Guild lose -> three way tie between Guild, G2, Acend -> Guild lose that because of worse map difference against G2 and Acend -> Guild out of playoffs (if Acend win BBL)

Holy shit

It was always by map difference in all tournaments in all esports

VLR admins are showing round diff for some fucking reason, hence making you believe that it's the tiebreaker

OP also has no source for his theory either

Bullshit, fake info

Round difference is not a tiebreaker for 3 way tie, map difference is

If Fnatic>Guild and Acend>BBL, Guild out because they have the least maps won/lost ratio against G2 and Acend (3-2 teams)

Guild can be out too, if Fnatic win and Acend win

Three way tie
G2 2-0 GLD, ACE 2-1 G2, GLD 2-1 ACE

Maps between three way tie
G2 3-2
ACE 3-3
GLD 2-3 (worst record, no playoffs)

Philippines is overrated, last year only Secret performed while the rest of the region was getting destroyed, now even Secret became washed

Action PH already out in play-ins
SBE and NAOS don't look like they can contend for Masters slots against beasts XIA, PRX, BOOM, FS, ONIC
In fact they are as good as APH, about the same level

People say C9💀💀💀

What lack of international play does to mfs, they already forgot how C9 got owned by EMEA at Champs
It's like in LoL when EU/NA fans are full on hopium before worlds, not knowing how shit their best teams are compared to China/Korea

No they wouldn't?
FS can't go to Xerxia's group because both same region

EIther way ONIC belong to C (death) or D (life) since other groups have ID teams, the chance of going to "death" was bigger so it happened

I don't watch APAC at all, but MiTH won NKT and almost won Xerxia in groups...

Cerberus went 2-1 against fucking Baam and 3-2 against Fancy United who qualified to main event because of lucky group

Cerberus is just as bad as the 2 wildcard VN teams

And MiTH is an underdog coming from the strongest SEA region (Thailand)

Their fault for losing to orgless indonesian stack called BWL and getting 3rd seed in the region when they could easily get 1st
That's why you don't throw seeding games

NA - C9, Sentinels (I don't know how but this streamer team will find a way on top against all odds)
EMEA - Gambit (if they can play), Fnatic, Guild - if Gambit can't then Acend instead (FPX choke as always)

BR - LOUD (they get better with every game and the rest of the region is horrible and doesn't improve)
LATAM - KRU (obviously)
BR / LATAM - Leviatan (not because they're good but rather because all of BR except LOUD are bad)

SEA - XERXIA, Paper Rex (literally two kings of SEA, were before and are now)
KR - DRX (I believe their loss to ONS was just a fluke since group stage is only for seeding)
JP - Zeta (same reason as LOUD, no competition and Zeta have top players in the region)

Notice how you named just 6 teams across 7 big ass regions
Also I only agree with DRX XIA KRU from this list

Yes - Japan, Korea, SEA, SA, OCE, Brazil, Latam teams...

I am Gambit fan, my flair doesn't show because of vlr bug

And no I don't hate russians just because they are russians

https://www.vlr.gg/31476/vivo-keyd-vs-team-vikings-champions-tour-brazil-stage-3-challengers-playoffs-lr3

If Keyd Stars didn't clutch up the last map 17-15, they wouldn't go to Masters 3, they wouldn't have enough points for SA LCQ, they would have been left out for the rest of 2021 and probably would disband with heat / murizzz (best players) going elsewhere

Acend were 2nd most hard working team in the word, 2nd by scrim hours after Gambit
Acend played mickey mouse LVP tournaments every month to improve
Acend did well at Redbull placing 2nd and only losing in devastating 13-11 / overtimes maps to Liquid
Acend never lost to Gambit in the 3 series they played each other
Acend won EU Masters 1 which means they are not 1 tournament wonders like you said

Stop

Go back to Reddit and suck Vision Strikers / Damwon dicks with other koreaboos "100 WINSTREAK MAN OFFLINE ARENA MAN"

Any team from garbage KR VCT league would go 0-5 have they competed in EMEA, maybe DRX / ONS would go 1-4 okay

leaf (duelist)
Chronicle (sova/flex)
Klaus (IGL sentinel/controller)
stax (flex)
Less (controller/sentinel)

Because they didn't play against Vietnam yesteday