do not join, minte will rig his teams.

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this is true tbh

The thing is: emea has some good t2 players but orgs just dont want to pick them up. tbf liquid did also mess up by keeping soulcas emil and jamppi and not going full cis (except for sayf) with sheydos trexx and enghh

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hahahahahahaahah this guy thinks FNC is gonna get grouped

cant wait for them to 2-0 nrg with midshies going -20 and 0-10 vs Leo so people finally stop talking about him

OPTC has how many current players?

NRG arent gonna get grouped if ardiis can pull his act together. s0m is good, vic is good and fns still has good calling (midshies always shits his pants whenever he isnt playing in qualifiers)

I dont think eg are gonna get grouped either, their group is weak except fut.

liquid still made playoffs + this whole region argument is stupid. What matters is who takes the trophy. FNC could be in playoffs with all the americas teams and if they win it doesnt matter that no other eu team made it

no that originated in NA after sen fans were coping from exiting berlin in quarters.

so? an eu team still won the masters trophy.

yeah but that was without chronicle + in a t5 event that they saved strats in and also it was last year in december. FNC has one loss all year since grabbing chronicle.

FNC won 2 trophies this year while NRG´/OPTC has not even made top 3 this year.

an L as in them taking a series off of FNC, last time before liquids win in emea finals was in the superdome event to geekay esports.

cause liquid still makes it out of groups

How do u guys think we can develop the eu scene so other teams from our region can stop getting dominated

EU still wins all trophies tho?

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FPX are mid as fuck, qw1 can farm for sure

nrg <<< leo’s left nut

Ur like the romanian final boss

175cms 72kgs with a decent build. I don’t look overweight so I’d say I’m fine

Vs fnatic? Completely impossible. Vs NRG? Very very slight chance

Champs 21 with berlin close 2nd

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LOUD got grouped yet again and rumors have it that the team is fractured even more now with the aspas drama
NRG core is prone to choking. 5 top4 opportunities and only won once while having yay in his best player in the world form for 3 of them.
EG is either going to get hit with 2nd place curse or do well, I believe they can make a rerun at the trophy but I think FNC still clean everyone. Their level is just so much higher than any other team. Only LOUD pushed them at all in a bo5 this year. EG didn't put a dent in them.

Wow! So many Americas teams making it out of groups but none of them are winning anything with both PRX and FNC at full power

and emea has 5

yall wouldnt have won shit in the entire past year aswell.

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In 2022 only FPX won a trophy for EMEA. That was without any of the current FNC players.

Also, can I point out how stupid this argument sounds? "Bro without some of your best players, you wouldn't have won!"

That's like me saying if OPTC had n4rrate instead of yay and shanks for marved in 2022, they would not have made it to top4 last year at all. Do you even realize how dumb this sounds? "Bro, LOUD with The Union players instead of their roster wouldn't have won anything!", duh dupshit. It doesn't take 500 iq to figure out that replacing key players will make the team worse.

rooting for a team that hasnt won anything

d3ffo isnt a pacific russian, he played on 140 ping for gank gaming from moscow in the china lcq qualifiers

Navi fix: Jemkin/d3ffo, ANGE1, Shao, Suygetsu, Zyppan d00mbros
-cNed +Jemkin/d3ffo (he can make it work)

basically old navi but with a better cNed. Should be able to do damage. for more changes remove ange1 and bring in a cis IGL.

Liquid Fix: Sheydos, Trexx, nAts, Redgar, Sayf ENGHH gray
-Soulcas +sheydos
-Jamppi+trexx
-eMIL +Gray and ENGHH (former coaches for Gambit)

old gambit but with a flex worse than chronicle and a better duelist than d3ffo. Should win trophies.

what colour is NA's trophy? Why are you so mad about me laying out the facts for you to see for yourself? This year, no teams from NA have made top1. Your region has 0 teams contending for 1st.

tiktok rots brains. It's proven to lower attention span = lower focus and concentration = insufferable idiots.

Okay, let's use this approach.

Counting only 2023 TOP2 finishes (being generous and not using top1 because EMEA blazes with two back-to-back trophy wins)

NA: 1 (EG)
Rest of Americas: 1 (LOUD)
EMEA: 2 (FNC)

Counting TOP4 finishes:

NA: 3 (1 EG, 2 NRG)
Rest of Americas: 1 (1 LOUD)
EMEA: 3 (2 FNC, 1 NAVI)

What does this tell us? That on average, Americas teams are better than EMEA ones this year by ONE top4 appearance while also choking super hard, with three different teams in TOP4 for Americas yet no title has been won yet this year from NA. So really, NA is a 0 team region as no team has been able to challenge fnatic (EG got smoked hard in grand finals). Americas as a whole is a one team region (with LOUD at their peak slugging with FNC across five maps and choking at the final hurdle.)

But since you want to use the "NAVI is washed" argument, with LOUD crashing out of Tokyo and rumors of the roster splitting post-champs, I will assume LOUD will not be able to contest FNC this champs.

This means: AMERICAS has 0 team that can challenge fnatic as of Champs. (Do not say NRG, they got smoked. EG as well in finals, and also lost in the upper finals.) This effectively reduces them to a 0 team region, as 0 teams are contending for first place.

+1 one of the few NA users here who still has attention span, you haven't used enough tiktok to become degen yet.

expected from NA brain

TLDR; NRG are carrying top4 NA representation while NAVI and FNC share the carry. NA is one team region, EU two team.

"EMEA teams suck except for fnc, we should rename the region to FNC region"

lets review the facts:

In the time it took NA to win two international competitions (Masters Reykjavik twice, with a years gap between each win), EMEA has won FIVE. (This is counting LOCK//IN, which was an international competition.) IN THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME.

NA, during this period, had two of the best players of all time in their prime. Yay, and TenZ.

Even with this firepower edge in 2021 and 2022, EMEA won more trophies, proving our players are better on average (god forbid you mention botshies and bottor, most overrated winners in the scene. Well, vic's alright since he creates space but crashies cannot play internationally and is still being rated "top10 of all time".)

To say that emea is a "dogshit region" while YOUR region, combined with the rest of america still has two less trophies than us while having a MUCH larger population (Continental Europe has around 750 million while Americas as a whole has more than a billion total) is total bullshit. Why don't we talk about how much of a choker region NA is?

In total, NRG/OPTC make up the only team out of NA to have top 4 finishes from 2022 to now, with the only other team in this category being the recent runner-ups, EG.

In fact, Brazil has almost as many top4 finishes while having more top2 finishes than NRG/OPTC. (BR have LOUD who placed 2nd in reykjavik, 1st in champs and 2nd in LOCK//IN to OPTC finishing 1st in reykjavik and 2nd in champs.)

EMEA meanwhile, had their top4 finishes in FPX, who placed 1st in copenhagen, 4th in champs, 3-4th in LOCK//IN and FNC who placed 1st in both LOCK//IN and Tokyo to make it a total of 5 top4 finishes to NA's (OPTC) 6. Keep in mind, NRG are responsible for 5 out of them.

While FPX/NAVI are responsible for 3/5, with FNC only recently adding to this top4 pool with 2.

Keeping that in mind, NA is the more "one team region". For two years, NRG was the only good international NA team. (EG only recently starting to play good).

EMEA still have more top1 finishes. Copenhagen, LOCK//IN and Tokyo vs Reykjavik and Champs '22. NA/BR haven't won a single trophy this year while EMEA has won two.

Which region sucks more? You tell me. The region where FNC isn't even carrying EMEA top4 representation over the years (including 2021 stats, this diminishes even further, with Gambit holding a 2/5, ACEND a 1/5 and FNC jumping to 3/5 since they placed second in 2021's reykjavik). Versus the region where for the last two years, NRG/OPTC are responsible for 5/6 of NA's top 4 appearances from 2022 to now.

Not with how he plays at international LANs. I would bet that even players like Cloud and Trexx could rival him internationally since he shits his pants every time he has to play in a global tournament and not just teams in the americas.

emea has a shit ton of top 10 players but last i checked, their teams at tokyo placed 1st, 5-6th, and two were grouped

what happened bruh?

we won the trophy in a 3-0 finals that's what happened 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

but tbh NA doesn't even have a single player in top 10 itw, except maybe Crashies.
holy shit when ur best NA player nomination is trashies (notoriously shits his pants in any international LAN event hosted outside the united states) then ur doing something wrong as a region

lock in was an international LAN event cause every team from franchise played, are u dumb?

nice trophies btw, where is ur masters tokyo/lockin/copenhagen/berlin/champs berlin trophy?

Thank god that you are not going to get someone pregnant with that rizz

This guy has never seen sayf play i guess + where is pacific international LAN trophies? EMEA has 5 (2/5 this year alone)

S0M even close to top5 💀

No Alfajer 💀 💀 💀

What dreams did u see in ur predictions?

Pacific 0.0 region stop using this argument your only trophy is from beating doorx

You’re kidding right?

“International league” /= global competition. If all regionals were t1 international tourneys then nrg could win something

There are a lot of t2 teams in the regionals, yes. T1 is international competition (why nrg players dont deserve top10)