Ban counts as both, xeta is Kr

Yeah, but their advantage is not that big, innovating is hard

https://twitter.com/GiantsGaming/status/1572586605562454016?cxt=HHwWgICzsfLL-dIrAAAA

But they have 6 months to get ready and there will be no info or vids about them unlike LOUD

They said they were the indo representation

Yes

Ok bro lol, that's not an argument

Only think I agree with is "favouritism > merit, in this esport. "
And it's called business and looking for long term run not short term run, and I understand you don't like it but I do

Only question is that will some more proven player in his role get shafted to tier 2 because Giants decided to stick with him

Um, I guess that is subjective but most likely yeah, someone will, spots are limited and it sucks but it is what it is IG

Also Kinda hoping for the continuing of exGiants roster with a Fitinho, Boo, Molsi, Hoody, Meddo/Kiles Pipson

academies are forbidden

No dude, I'm saying he confirmed Fitinho is the only player they will keep from franchising 100%, rest are in doubt but he is confirmed to stay

Giants Ceo just confirmed it, thoughts genuinely asking

People forget about no china too

What

Yes we did, but Nordic players are gonna be picked up cause they are insane gonna be many in franchsing plus FNC is kinda nordic. And Ik I'm biased but to me the problem here is Futbolist instead of BIG not Giants, and my reasoning is, not just that futbolist is a smaller org but the fact that they can just pick up Turkish players, meanwhile all KOI, Heretics and Giants are gonna pick up European mixed rosters, maybe 1 Spaniard but that's probably gonna be the cap for every team yk

I love Heretics and Giants too, I think I'm gonna wait and see who gets the better roster, most likely going wherever Kolda goes

Feel like Kolda is way more likely tbh, but I would lie to you if I told you there isn't an actual chance he makes it with KOI too, could be another org tho

Because they are a great org and convinced Riot with their project, only other org who could have made it instead of them is BIG which could substitute either them or Futbolist tbh, it's not too crazy imo

G2 is a big loss nil but yes, specially if they allow co stream but still if not numbers are gonna explode

Wdym you have to do something about Spain xD. I'm sorry about your school tho, sucks I thought BIG would make it

The EMEA classico coming up, so I just wanna begin this friendly rivalry by pointing out that Ibai had 100k viewers today during the announcement and Kameto 30k, take the L

Join other teams ofc, FPX already posted they are looking for offers

Not until I see the rosters

KOI Giants and Heretics I could not fucking care less about g2 rn looool go laugh at someone else

It's just as much as Spain is gonna have tho lol

T1 made it

F Dach

Ah yes not having twitter makes me not know anything about franchising

Link? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snnP7kMJ2dQ&list=PLYg45iMNsrZo69bjVDXmvuQQSntByoWDc&index=6 Literally first vlog I found from masters Berlin should be more than enough

Fair enough, but players having connections to orgs that made franchising is not a bad thing. Yeah media and hoody have connections to Giants, so do Boo and molsi that's not a bad thing. So does Nivera with TL for example. A player working on his image it's good.

That's gonna be some big bucks

My guess is GUILD core + Maxwell, if you consider that going for club then yeah Ig

"Nothing from me" Wdym bro? What do you want me to do I just told you the source? What else do you want, a hug?

I don't even have a twitter account my friend, so stop assuming things. Already told you I did wrong insulting you but you keep trying to come up with a different excuse not to admit you were simply trying to spread hate

Well, purple is cooler than red tho

In 20 min dude, everyone posting

Lmao dude that's a copy paste and yes I do know for a fact he doesn't speak Spanish, you can see it in Mixwell's vlogs if you want

I only act like a know the things I actually know, I just happen to be very informed about franchising cause I actually like it and am excited about it, sorry if that offends you

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Mixwell was also gonna be in the league no matter what tho, all his ex teammates love him, he is really communicative and has insane mid round calls with a tone of experience. He might not have the firepower for Chamber anymore and I agree but he literally plays everything. If you think he doesn’t fit in any role in any team even if it’s a lower board team I think you’re just hating.

About Fitinho he is proven in Tier 1 and simply a promise of the scene, he could do just as good as a promise from any other scene he could have made it or not but this benefits him and increases his chances. It’s unfair cause he doesn’t have to compete the spot now? Yes. He has actual chances of making it if not? Also yes, he is really good and not anywhere close from being mediocre.

Kiles, well it’s not guaranteed but he is an IGL now which helps him justify his numbers and there’s really a lack of. He is a world champion at the end of the day, all ex Acend players are gonna be in most likely

Again, I understand your skepticism but none of these players are gonna be the ones you are gonna want out at the end of the season I can guarantee you that, you’ll see they are perfectly capable, and the downgrade if there even is it’s definitely worth the infrastructure and narrative this clubs have

Oh c’mon dude, none of us are dumb here, there is a big difference between posting your opinion like you just did and just spreading free hate. I’ve seen you put bullshit posts all day, and that one actually just got be tired of it. And no dude, making an exaggeration saying they all speak Spanish knowing they don’t so they are gonna get picked up it’s disrespectful, and no, is not the same than explaining your opinion. Stop trying to justify it like you tried to alluding to Mixwell when I exposed your fallacy. Same why I accept I shouldn’t have insiulyed you

Well I think 4 players and filled with are two different concepts but sure. I’m happy because of the orgs not the players tbh

Yeah act like you weren’t being disrespectful

I couldn’t be happier :)

The opposite actually, it sucks dude, but academies would actually affect a circuit where you can ascend like this one, so yeah no

I’m sorry but mix is 100% in one of them, most likely KOI, and other than those two that’s gonna be about it, maybe Fitinho or Kiles stay in Giants, doubt Heretics gets any Spanish players

I’m talking about this year too, so you’re telling me that you would rather have falltw than Avova for your tier 1 team next year, independently of their results this year, do you think he is gonna bring more to your team? Not even gonna argue about the rest

I’m sorry but last time I checked they means more than 1, but you might be right my Murican friend

Yeah Ik, it would be more fair but given to the point that there’s just one slot left I think BIG deserves it better.

Still the issue with Turkish orgs to me is that if you for example out 3 Turkish orgs you’re gonna have three mid full Turkish roster. Instead I you out 3 Spain or France or whatever you’re gonna have Turkish super teams and 3 great European mixes yk

Lev is confirmed

Well, there you go, 9 teams, 1 more and you have a really fun VRL

Looks like VRL for them

Ik but it’s true

Wrong choice imo, BIG is bigger org and the league being in Berlin they really need a German team

Vitality and KCORP and France, Giants KOI and Heretics Spain, NaVi Ukraine, Liquid and FNC are either just European in general or Netherlands and UK respectively, BBL Turkish

And Fut is not confirmed yet, might be BIG