Well I might be tripping but I'm pretty confident it says 5th-6th right here
https://www.vlr.gg/event/1657/valorant-champions-2023/playoffs
And in case you're gonna say fluke, I think it also says 5th-6th right here
https://www.vlr.gg/event/1494/champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo/playoffs

Tf are you saying all I said is they placed top 6, it’s not an opinion lil bro I’m just stating what happened

Technically they were a top 6 team in the world last year. Saying they won’t get 10 rounds against anyone just doesn’t make sense to me

Tf you mean EDG has been great for a long long time

Tbf doesn't look very fair

Dude was the best player on the team last year and they bench him after 2 games. Wasn’t he the IGL as well? Or not anymore?

Tell me with a straight face shin is a better player than Shao or atakaptan

Update: now that this has gone public he just got paid today, so I guess it’s resolved but xD

He is, KC just runs double smoker every map so Tomaszy and him have played both mainly smokers

Tbf FUT was the second best EMEA team last champs so it’s not even the not winning. Idk what Fut games they’re watching

Ata Kaptan is probably like top 2 players in fut who just placed top 2 EMEA last year, I didn’t even know people had a bad image of him I’ve always thought he was cracked af

I wanna think it’s just recency bias from today

There’s rivalry between Spanish orgs and KC yes. But everything I said here is objectively true shin is not even close from being the best controller in EMEA wtf

Well if it is it’s his mom because Cauan Pereira does not sound very Mongolian

ata kaptan is miles better than shin tf are you saying

Technically MAD LIONS is an EMEA org now so I'm just gonna go ahead and say we found him in the first place copium

Politically yes, but what Riot understands as the Valorant Region of LATAM, no. Its different

So LEV is not LATAM either?

Absolutely not, most IGL’s play smokers do it’s easier but you still have ATAKaptan, Shao etc. matter of fact statistically Boo, Boaster and grubinho were better for example

Thank god KC still sucks at LEC

On marteen #7

Not really no, heard several VCL coaches said they didn’t understand he pick up because they didn’t like him much in their tryouts, he lacks a lot of things apparently, but he does have the talent.

That being said, he’s a bet, could go right could wrong. That is 1, wtf you doing with the rest.

Yes I was lower than everyone else on him but you won't see me deny his talent and the fact that him turning out like this was a real possibility. But I do no regret what I said. Shin and magnum have been very solid but I do not regret not being high on them it made sense at the time and even now I'd say marteen tomaszy and narrate are who I'm most impressed by

We knew 3 of the 5 players here and 2 of the 3 were not the carries at all. But I was wrong, that being said don't act like you had them making it out of groups lil bro

I’ve seen that argument a lot lately and it just just not true. Idk if patitek or woot will fit better in the team but what I do know 100% is that we cannot judge that based on a fucking off season tournament where all of the players looked completely different

Look at teams off seasons. FUT last year lost like 7 games in a row in the off season. Off season is to get rhythm and try stuff nothing serious

He is very solid but I do think this game proves that Woot is necessary to have another player who is capable of carrying when necessary

Did you find it?

I can't rn but it was a the half

Best transition you've ever seen

Cleanest transition you've ever seen

Who’s Reins

No no, the qw1 part I do now. That’s something their analyst last year Inthra said. Gais new he was gonna replace qw1 from the start of the year, he did not listen to the coach and their relationship was terrible. Tried to fix it couple times but never lasted

Well SMB had issues, Fut had issues with qw1, didn't BBL have issues aswell? Some tier 2 teams aswell I think

He’ll probably be in madrid, entering Spain is not an issue I believe

Yes I remember very well, unfortunately idk why Turkish rosters don't seem to last long, they end up with internal issues quite often

I have seen quite a few people rank him higher than I would. But nothing to do with hate, just opinion

SEN gets more exposure than the average club therefore zekken gets both more love and more hate than the average pro

How many first time countries on international do we have in Madrid? I count Australia and Portugal so far. I think that's gonna be it unless Trace wins and we're counting Hong Kong

Nah they have gotten more hype way before beating FNC. I think it's the fact that NA fans support them because of narrate

Well if we're doing that then I'm going with Acend masters 1 coming in as almost a mix and winning it all. But I think we're both a bit biased xD

We've had way more impressive upsets even in international events like KRU run or Zeta run. Most recently I'd say EG coming out of nowhere after the addition of demon1

They've been the best ascension team out of all regions so far

Not Russian at all but for some reason I've always just felt inclined to root for most Russian players

Didn’t know that but it would definitely make sense

Might even have gotten both tbf

Is having an NA player a -1?

Yup yet somehow everyone seems to hype up KC more for some reason

Hey we gave mirrors in exchange for our gold, it’s technically an scam not a robbery

Tomaszy has been deserving the spotlight for a while I’m glad he got it. He is such a nice guy too

No soy de TH pero es necesario apoyarlos en madrid

Didn't know that one, ty

I doubt tomorrow looks the same, I still think TH is gonna win but it should be a lot closer. I think KC didn't play like they have been doing against TH

Ofc because goat Sainz is farming