Great, now we are back to my original point. Which is that at to me it's completely impossible to remember if I felt like Shao or Suygetsu played better.

I don't remember who clutched when it mattered, I don't remember if since I thought of Shao was the better player coming in I'm conditioned and Suygetsu actually was better. I can't tell if I'm biased because of what happened after.

Very simple, if that was the case, why does this thread exist. Look who won and see who was rated higher, no need to make a poll

There is not a set criteria to decide so it is a matter subjective

not sure they ever meant to keep kamo, but guess we'll never know

Good maybe util wise, but aim wise it was average at best

1 bad tournament??? Bro hasn't even had a good tournament at all

His aim has not been top level since fucking Nuturn

No members yet, they just announced they're looking for a coach build the academy. They opened application basically

KOI announced an academy yesterday which caught me by surprise tbh

Partnering with a tier2 team and an Academy are 2 different things brother

Who you thought was the best player at the time and who played better and deserves the MVP are 2 completely different things. And in order to decide who played better you need to remember how they played

My point is it's impossible to remember the feeling we had at that time of who played the best in order to decided on those close ones. But I guess maybe it's me that has a shitty memory

I'm afraid this doesn't make sense anymore, it's impossible to remember well enough how everyone played. Just gonna look at who had better stats and you can do that without a poll

I think fans should be happy with making it to begin with. I don't think aiming any higher is fair expectation

Because he wasn’t good enough. Truth is he has been underwhelming and part of the problem for 2 years

That was not the case because he was good in the past and we expect him to go back to that. But he was good in the past on flex, and that’s what he stays to play

Sheydos is not it on sentinel, he just isn't, it's not huis role, feels unnatural. As I said as far as I understand if he was on sentinel he would have been kicked

Absolutely not, sheydos is the flex and that should be non negotiable. If it weren't sheydos would have been gone

Pistons

Yeah, I'll probably figure out when that happens and go back to watch that one race xD

What about Colapinto, tf you want top 10 placements for

Don’t get me wrong is great for Colapinto but not for Sainz, it’s okay I understand how it works, will be back, just probably not gonna watch meanwhile

They were looking for a sentinel, didn't find any they were convinced by so got Soulcas and moved Flyuh back to sentinel. It is what it is

Don't believe this changes the list much tho

Actually Flyuh is the sentinel most likely. Soulcas I believe is the initiator

Being on Williams and not being there is the same thing

No Carlos Sainz I don't care

jamppi? Huh?

Hey hey hey, let's not go that far

Choky

number 1 zkoldamenta fan

fair

anywhere else as in no one outside C9, o anywhere else as in only on G2?

he was talking about last years roster so no

he is under contract, not really how it works

But yeah he tried out for a few teams, G2 were interested apparently

I’m not up to date but I doubt R6 peaks much higher than GC even

First of all xD
And second of all, have you heard of timezones

I think the argument is more like there aren't enough games through the year. Like through the season you get weeks with like games every day at every hour. But then there's months with no games at all

One very important detail people often get twisted every time Iin franchising good/bad conversations. The fact that the franchising concept is the correct one in my opinion does not mean it doesn't need to improve a bunch of shit.

People blame franchising for absolutely any problem they see. "Franchising is terrible there isn't enough games" Wtf does that have to do with franchising, have riot add more games?

I understand what you mean and I also thought of that but I don't believe that would work at all for many reasons:

1. I don't think it makes up for the amount of skins people would stop buying. If you implement that the sells on new skins would dramatically drop. If you wanted a new skin you would spend 50 dollars on a skin from someone who doesn't wanna play anymore, not 100 on a new one. And the margin of benefit there for riot is way smaller

2. One of the reasons that works in cs is because the amount of items is limited, which means prices can grow bigger than the original price and therefore people speculate and it's like a bubble. In valorant other than very few skins, you can literally get any of them at your store at any moment so the price is kinda capped at the original price of the skin

3. How does this even benefit Riot, the whole point of this was that tier 2 would benefit from having gambling money sponsors related to the game. But how would a third party make money from a system like this without the gambling part? Maybe you could make a third party store where you could buy any skin. But then again if Riot really wanted that they could just do it themselves and allow everyone to buy any skin at any time.

Brother you're missing the point, ofc gambling is not bad for the pro players, it's actually great to make the scene work. The problem is the moral side of it, not anything else, it's just a line Riot is not willing to cross. It's like if they allowed drug ads, would help the scene grow with money but it's not ethical

And yeah the actual solution as you say is just Riot pumping more money into making more events

That’s quite literally what Sliggy meant tho.

Basically, I would rather have the situation we have now that the one in Cs if that means we have to allow gambling

Without cases is just pointless economically for Riot because people would buy skins from each other instead of from Riot

League has over a decade of history, it’s much easier to create narratives, give it time. Also another factor is that Valorant it’s easier to understand for an outsider so attracting new players is easier

But yeah LOL is insanely big, we are not anywhere close as of now

I’ve argued this before but that has nothing to do with franchising tho

I think it has the potential to be because it’s more global. Regions are a lot more even and it feels like it’s stronger in more countries

That’s exactly his point, so many tournament organizers can do what they do because of gambling sponsors and money

Aspas missed a bunch of events brother xD

He also had hoody as signed as of yesterday and he just got signed to Fokus so who tf knows xD

I don't think it's about the fragging. IGLing on sentinel can be done but nit conditions certain things and maybe they wanted to change that

Idk about underrated because they're generally being placed top4 EMEA in most people's rankings which is where I also think they should be. But yes I have high hopes for them, the firepower is insane and I'm excited about the Saadhack + Engh duo

yes he is, I was asking for him to get picked up
The thing is tho, the firepower is not where he will shine, I'd say he has average tier 1 firepower. The strength is the comms and the flexibility with the roles. Enghh knows what he's doing so we'll see

elite sentinel
avez flex
suygetsu smokes
marteen duelist

Maybe, but it’s not the same as NRG at all

No he said the peak viewership was 9.1M