Best player to not win a trophy. His time will come.

It's meters and grams 🦅🦅🦅 not inches and pounds 🦅🦅🦅 shush up

fair enough

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Nah, you're putting words in my mouth. You're yet to still show me where. At least I can show exactly where you admitted buzz is better by mistake. I still find it hilarious that you f'd up like that lmao

All good, at least we both agree buzz is better, you said it yourself.

Lmao? How does that support your claims that I said accolades matter? That was in response to you saying how one mid tournament doesn't matter and that it wasn't one mid tournament but actually some pretty poor ones before champs. Reading comprehension check? Wild how you keep grasping at straws even though this debate has been all but over when you goofed and literally admitted buzz better.

One is objectively correct, the other is you saying something that literally cannot be backed. Why can't you just show me where I said it hmm? It should be easy for you since it should be literally written down. Wild how you still can't, like a politician lmao. Just dodge and dodge.

Idk what more ground you have to argue on lmao, you literally trolled and admitted buzz is better both by longevity and recently. 😂 You can literally say whatever you want, but we both know who messed up and won this one lmao.

Getting a little feisty now aren't we? This tends to happen when you know you've lost. You're yet to show me where I said accolades matter, if you don't show me then we know how weak your argument is. That's putting words in my mouth. You defending someone clearly behind the other is just the straight truth that only a fan would say.

Besides all that, its hilarious how you literally admitted buzz is better both in terms of longevity and recently. I guess kk is better when you take only the middle part lmao?

The fact is, only to a kk fan like you is it close. Again, you've been putting words in my mouth and just straight up lying.

You just said considering longevity, he has it over kk. You also said "if you are putting buzz above KK, then the list is clearly based on recency bias." Do you see the problem here?

You've literally admitted buzz over kk, both longevity and recently. It's wild how you're defending such a false belief, yet you fumble over your own words and literally straight up admit he's better both ways. Like surely you can't argue your way out of this? You literally just admitted both longevity and recently buzz is better.

That is quite an incredible stretch, you're grasping at straws that I said anything about accolades. I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't put words in my mouth. Nevertheless, comparing the global kill leader, one of the most consistent of all time, making quality runs almost every single time, the currently better player to kk who was on one of the worst performing teams before one good run at champs, is laughable. The obsession with even considering this as debatable is very strange ngl.

When did I say I want to account for accolades? Please enlighten me. And I'll assume you're the latter, a devout KK fan.

Anyone saying buzz below KK is either trolling or a devout fan. Like I said, both current and all time, one of them is clearly better.

Besides champs, edg were a very poor team in terms of results before that. If you are basing the list off recency, then in no world does he deserve a spot over jawg and buzz like you claim he does. If you're basing the list off all time, then he doesn't deserve a spot over them even more so.

The list is perfectly fair though. The contradiction in what you're saying is saying that if you choose buzz over KK it must be recency bias. However, Drx have been the most consistent team of all time with buzz one of the best in the business for quite a bit. Many teams wish to achieve their regular placements at international events. G2 also elevated very nicely with the addition of Jawg who is clearly making a massive impact even now for the team, both recent and previously on eg, and it makes sense to put him in too. That's a very valid list imo.

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If this list is clearly based on recency bias, then jawgemo's consistency and winning champs should not be considered and you can argue he doesn't deserve one of those spots. The contradiction in your statements is a bit confusing to say the least.