Aspas basically beat MW in every category but acs AND won the tournament.

Is that really what you believe 😂

Its literally what idiots in USA say to try and be politically correct.

We ain’t out to get you dude.

We barely even know you exist.

Y’all delusional.

Aspas had a better
Rating
KD
Kast
WAY better clutch percentage (Mw only had 1 clutch all tournament)
FK/FD ratio

AND led his team to a tournament victory.

MW had more ACS

Y’all high if you think MW had a better tournament than Aspas.

Imagine getting this upset that someone put an X at the end of Latin.

Y’all soft as warm butter.

6th at best.

Anything above 6th is a wild over performance for the 2nd best team in t2 in 2023.

Both great.

Both have arguments for who is better.

Here is my take, I worry about Aspas as a person. I don’t know how good he actually is in a team environment. He always seems like he is “to cool to care”.

I do know that derke is basically a 2nd caller and has been on the same team for a long time.

In the server I would pick Aspas, but if I was drafting my own team…. I just don’t know.

If it goes down

Demon1
Ethen
Crashies
Marved
Victor

I will change my flair.

The experience of those players with the raw power of demon1…. Gorgeous.

It’s the closest we have to an NA super team.

Aspas is proving that he deserves to be talked about as a top 3 duelist.

The rest of the team is good but not great.

They are missing 1 more star and they could be contenders for top 3 finishes at every tournament.

Right now it feels like they need just a little more.

Fair take. I think geng will be a lot better than people realize.

Prx, rrq, DRX, geng, bleed

Everyone else.

Furia wins and we see 100 threads about how NA are doomed and terrible because a team no one thought would be good split series with the 2nd best team in Brazil and lost to the best team in SA.

Give him a break guys.

He is obviously mentally handicapped.

They played haven 36 times. It’s always been a strong map and comfort pick for them.

They played pearl 10 times.

Without pearl in the map pool, not banning haven is a stupid play by c9.

Kings famous play where he stands up and opens his arms was on haven.

I didn’t say it was thier “best” map, but it’s one of their strongest maps.

Lev have always been amazing at haven.

Letting them pick haven is troll.

Great fragger and this is the map he is known for.

Probably wants to prove he is good and not just a product of saadhak

Haven is one of levs best maps since forever.

If they lose this map it’s joever

I’m excited to see if he can make an impact.

One of the players to watch for sure.

*insert Thanos “I don’t even know who you are” meme

Weight watchers meeting

Bro thought the 2nd best team in t2 who had 1 good tournament was going to be the “savior” of the region that won champions. 😆

Jakee (the best counter to the op) is dying in the first 3 seconds multiple times and the observer hasn’t shown it so I can’t see how he is being so fucking dumb

Jake paid to throw or is he just that bad. Died in the first 3 seconds 5 or more times so far……… as the smokes…….

Remember when ardiis (a top 3 duelist for EMEA ) went to NA and was the worst duelist in NA and 9th best in Americas?

Will you have to tell your employer that you have sever mental retardation or is that something you don’t have to disclose when you get hired?

It’s sad how many people are clearly mental ill.

I wonder if people have always been this retarded?

I am not a fan of “best in the game”

But no denying he is arguably the best in slot for his role.

Anyone who says “it’s only because he is in FNC” clearly never watched him when he was in Guild.

Tbh they are surprisingly good signings.

Stellar deserves a 2nd chance and Corey has always been solid.

Jawg
Corey
Com
?
Stellar

Add a cracked young 5th and it’s a decent team

Boostio to 100t
Ethen and demon1 to NRG

Jawg
Corey
Com
?
Stellar

Honestly not a terrible lineup.

Lux9 is malibus alt

The game will be better but the difference won’t be as huge.

The thing about gta 5 is that it was so much better than anything else when it was released.

Now we have tons of shit that’s like it. The next game won’t be as revolutionary so it won’t feel as amazing

Cope and seethe

NA are world champions.

Feels good to be the best 😎

More teams got better imho

For the most part I haven’t been impressed with any off season for EMEA or NA.

RRQ got way better
T1 could surprise
GenG is better
PRX is about the same
DRX is the same

It’s going to be a good year for them.

Still the best team in the world.

If champs 2023 played out 10 times FNC is winning the tournament 6 of those ten times.

EG 2 times

PRX 2 times

We just happen to live in the timeline where EG won.

Ngl I was worried about NA, but seeing these EMEA teams perform is embarrassing.

This really might be Pacifics time to shine

If EG loses most of their players.

NRG (if Ethen / Demon1
Lev
Sen
Furia
Loud
100t ( if Boostio)
C9
G2
Kru
EG (even if all t2)
MIBR

TDL

Keznit doesn’t deserve to be in t1 because he is an asshole.

Reality

He is a top 3 duelist in SA

Keznit is great!

But Less is better.

I can see an argument for 3 or so players being swapped, but then it would be more my opinion than hard facts.

What player who didn’t make playoffs would you call a top 10 player? And who would you remove to place them?

I was checking the stats of Champions and I noticed if I filtered to the playoffs only the vlr rating system had a surprisingly accurate top 10 for 2023.

While I would personally change 3 or so people, the fact that I fould understand an argument for everyone on the list shocked me.

I sorted by playoff games only (so no one would have inflated states against bad teams.)

1) demon1
2) Aspas
3) Less
4) cauanzin
5) Leo
6) something
7) Alfa
8) jawg
9) Davai
10) Ethan

I am not saying the ratings are correct and I would place them in those spots in the top ten, but the fact that they are all top 10 players is hard to argue.

Lev gonna farm.

Aspas top 3 duelist in the world and a carry from NA… how could they not?

Damn it feels good to have an NA world champion team.

Best in the world and living rent free!

What a life.

Fit1 carries 13-11 Spain

Bili bili free win for NRG.

Riot rigged the groups again for NA

It’s because he rarely uses the vandal.
Small sample size can lead to inaccurate scores.

It’s why some of these don’t really mean much but they are fun anyway.

Sliggy said he was the player that he expected to see in t1 the most out of players that didn’t make it.

Came to say this

He is the best initiator in t2 and the only reason he isn’t in t1 is because he is to young.

With that being said, I wouldn’t put him anywhere near the top 10 in the world (YET) until he has played internationally.

Who is IGL for kpi?

This whole lobby is full of aim demons…. And then we have Redgar 😂

Dude just looked at the score and isn’t watching 2nd map