Nah he still stay CS. One thing I don’t understand about Valorant orgs is they are willing to sign players just based off their status in CS even if they have never touched or barely touched the game. Players like RUSH were saying he got offers for Valorant orgs and he said he has never touched the game before.

Stewie isn’t “mediocre” at CS but someone like Hiko is the definition of washed. I like hiko but they could do better without him. If 100T are looking to rebuild. Build around Ethan and Asuna. You’re not wrong as majority of the pros in Valorant are either washed or failed CS players who got originally signed due to their former status in CS, some players just never got the chance but yeah. Maybe it will change. That’s why I like teams like Gambit because all of them are 1. Young and 2. Kids who weren’t big namers in CS or got a real chance.

Maybe but nAts is a beast man. That dude imo is the best player in Valorant. TenZ gets all the hype because he has a bunch of young fans who will goto extremes for him. A lot like s1mple fans. Me personally, teams with idiotic fanbases makes it hard to root for them ex. SEN, 100T (no offense), Navi, old SK/Luminosity from CS. I don't disagree it is a braindead take. I believe any of those teams can win but imo I just think Gambit will win. EU just has a different mentality that NA has always lacked. It's why NA CS is now in a rebuilding phase and limited players achieved success. More players within the scene cared more about egos and reputations rather than focusing on winning. You can already see it with NA VAL in areas.

Only time will tell on how the teams play and who wins.

Sentinels won Iceland and shat the bed in Berlin when they didn't even finish in the top 4. If everything follows the Script, Gambit should shit the bed as well...

All jokes aside I still think Gambit is the best team going in and are probably the favourites going into the event. With that being said, Liquid and Envy can definitely win if they play well. Sentinels can win but their fans are like NAVI Cs fans and half of them are braindead sheeps.

The move with shox and vini just seem super random imo. I also don’t know how good their English is so the language barrier may be rough.

He’s not switching.

But in reality nitro is rejoining him on Liquid

You realize nitro is joining liquid right? Elige isn’t going anywhere.

I mean it’s 1-1 rn lol on OP a map that Liquid has 100% win rate

You need more than just aim to find success in the pro level though.

Haha Harmful trial

Biggest stream sniper in NA

It’s NA hahaha what do expect

I don’t see him leaving CS. Would make no sense for him unless he has been pulling an Ethan and practicing with a team in Val while being paid by the org he’s currently on.

Considering 100T on paper should be the best team in NA besides Sentinels but continuously fail to produce results and didn’t even qualify for champions i can see why. Dropping steel made no sense to me.

I like Hiko but Hiko is not it and needs to go. Better players out there that just need to be given the opportunity.

Riot is stingy will their games and don’t want the people touching it.

It’s ironic considering their games are based on/copied off other games.

Source and 1.6 still have communities because of the whole community aspect. Why CS will always be bigger imo. It just amazes me that a game that’s legit 20 years old still has a consistent player base even though everyone plays CSGO nowadays.

most t1 players getting paid 20-40k a month.

depends on the org but considering its Liquid. Probably 30-40k a month.

Covid fucked NA

He’s getting paid 25k a month or something in 100T

I don’t like Sinatraa but he’s better than Hiko lol

Liquid grand slam run and EG dominated as well yeah good time

If they really wanted they could get sinatraa or someone. I get Hiko has experience but the entire roster was built around experience besides Asian
Ethan
Nitro
Steel

All three have a shit ton of experience. I get steel and nitro are gone but at one point that’s what they all brought.

If 100T wanted to be a top team again they just need to -Hiko.

Hiko is cool and all but he is the definition of washed and signed due to his former status in CS. I think there are better players out here they can get and just make Hiko a streamer or something. CS and Val have younger players with the ability to shine. They just need to get the opportunity.

Well the problems with NA CS is that players in the scene were always the worst problem. They cared more about egos and reputation more than winning and orgs left when time after time players failed to show results. Imagine how different the NA cs scene would be if it were different. That’s the problem I could see happening in NA VAL. You can already see it with some players. It is a rebuilding phase for NA so we will see how it goes.

When do you think the peak of NA was?

NA CS isn’t really that dead. It’s in a rebuilding phase realistically. The casual scene is fine but competitively it’s just newer players getting the opportunity now that they wouldn’t have before.

NA CS created a bubble for itself before Valorant existed. Hopefully the same doesn’t happen in val.

Those who call people frogs tend to be a frog themselves.

Only reason why people called him wash because at the time when he switched, majority of the Valorant pros were washed or failed cs pros. There are some players who never got the chance but yeah. He was never washed to begin with but HLTV has a lot of braindead Europeans.

its NA VAL what do you expect

I do, just Valorant fanboys are insecure about CS, they just don’t like to admit it. The guy who made this thread is insecure. The replies to my comments just shows the Valorant community in a nutshell.

Buddy got a little excited

Yeah I can see that. India would have a decent following and scene in CS if it wasn't for f0rsaken.

We will see, won't make any sense lol.

I do as well, I'm just saying that NA CS got fucked by covid. That isn't coping, it's just a fact. No LANs, not being able to practice and play against the best teams in the world unless they are in Europe.

It’s a riot game, you would be surprised how many. From what I’ve noticed is kids in higher ranks are more from CS. Lower ranked players tend to be from the games I listed.

Obviously not all but a decent amount.

Copium? Lol where did you get me coping from my statement lol

Actually majority of Valorant players came from League, Apex, and Fortnite. Obviously some came from CS or played it at one point. But a lot are from the games I listed. I’ll agree a good amount of Val players play both CS and Val.

Valorant simp triggered. You should tell the Valorant fanboys to stay off HLTV. You seem insecure about CS.

NA has been in a weird state as it got fucked hard by Covid. There were 3 NA teams in the Major but sadly Liquid lost their coach last minute. EG bombed out and Furia made playoffs but are Brazilian.

I mean Liquid lost their coach right before the major so couldn’t be as good as their max potential. If they get hot, they can beat Navi and other top teams.

Valorant won’t come close sorry

Lol you realize the Chinese numbers for cs was 18 million right? I doubt that number is totally correct but I know Valorant in Asia gets no where the same amount. I know it’s big in Japan but don’t know about other regions.

I mean co streaming does carry Valorant viewership no matter how much you want to deny it. If shroud was getting 2x-3x the amount of viewers than the main channel than I don’t know what the word carrying means. Even in the latest LCQ events, Tenz co streamed some of the matches and had way more viewers than the actual main channel.

“I’ve never played baseball before, but I’ve played tennis which requires hitting a ball like baseball, so we please sign me to a baseball contract.”

They are just wanting to steal some paychecks. No motivation just money.

They are pretty much saying.

“I’ve never played baseball before, but I’ve played tennis which requires hitting a ball like baseball, so we please sign me to a baseball contract.”

If it wasn’t for Covid they would have been signed yet I feel like Jonji would have been dropped

T1 cs player > MDL throwers

I’m just gonna say t1 cs player Xeppaa > MDL throwers

I don’t think that had anything to do with it. Just the little fact the competitive scene in China was never that big to begin with, only like 2 teams were good. CSGO is big in China, just the competitive scene remains on the smaller level and will probably stay that way.

Cs did blow up in China. The game is huge there lol.

Not referring to just steel, just in general. Seems like every team in Val makes roster changes after events.