I feel like the way they're gonna approach this is a rookie training grounds tbh + would this proven T2 players agree to play in a team that can't even ascend?

Mate, it being a b01 with only 2 teams participating should have been a dead give away that this is what's it going to be lmao.

At least make it entertaining for audience?! no?

I watched it and I had fun tbf.

https://imgur.com/a/g22xxPL

Regardless of the result, we'll get a lot of cope, wash allegations, and crazy over reactions from the fans over a showmatch lmao.

or maybe... they're borrowing accounts considering China is considered a separate region from APAC, if they want to play using their main they'd need to migrate it to APAC, and that takes 90 days to revert back.

Xipto stepped up when it mattered. Xipto is what TS wants to be as a Filipino team 😭

Honestly, given their recent performances I knew ZETA was going to win this match up, I was surprised by how many people actually preferred FLC over ZETA, the betting odds was even 4x difference, that's easy money, I actually wanted to bet but didn't have the means to do so 😢

TS absent in OFF//SEASON but also in scrims lmao

Deryeon is definitely good, but I couldn't justify picking him over any other duelist in T1 APAC rn. About Crazyguy, I'd argue he'd fall behind T2 as well. Dude's mid at IGLing and mid at his role, not to mention, he's unprofessional as hell. Sscary tho, definitely deserves a spot in T1, but a lot of factors to probably make it happen, surely there are other teams who wanted him in T1 considering he's arguably one of the best, if not the best controller in SEA.

crazy, no way that guy deserves a spot anywhere at all with all the bullshit he's done last season.

bro, that guy wasn't even a GE fan before they signed all 3 Filipino players... He's the typical clickbait vlr user, if you want to keep ur sanity just ignore the motherfucker.

the Jremy slander is insane. Sure he did look a bit shaky by the end of Split 2 (specially when using OP), but it's rare to see him like that, when he's calm he's insane, have you not seen his crazy transfers? when he does crazy shit he doesn't even seem to be sweating, it's light work for him lmao.

everyone gets too much hate in vlr, really no need to overthink about it lmao

Yeah it's funny indeed, that was the case for me as well, I was actually asking who's yokam and keep confusing him to yoman LMAO. I remember Patrick Watson from Carti very well though, since I've watched a few matches in PH T2.

I think yokam will do good, he literally owned the PH scene the moment he entered it. He got comfortable competing real fast, so I'd like to imagine he has the mental to replicate that success in T1 (even though it's more difficult compared to T2 PH).

It is stacked (in APAC). Give them good coaching and guidance a PH team consisting of top 5 Filipino players can definitely win something (at least in APAC).
I'd take a guess and say that the reason TS isn't poaching more PH T2 players is because:

• The current roster is looking solid, they went 4-0. I'm guessing they're willing to give them another chance, and honestly this is probably what they had in mind last season anyways.
• The team itself (the players) has a lot of influence on the players they get. (I have no solid proof of this, but a certain yapper coach has said this before)
• They're still building around Jessie's Sova (it's evident, you can see a lot of their executes and plays rely heavily on his Sova, it's not a coincidence that their comp in their strongest maps always have a Sova) instead of building around their more promising and younger players.

If this happens GE is a honorary Filipino team. I'd definitely root for this team lmao.

Honestly, I want them to succeed, that'd pave the way for teams to finally look for T2 PH as their potential scouting ground for talents, if this happens TS will definitely be pressured to do the same.

Yes, TS does look for talents in T2 PH and they do actually find good talents (Invy and Oreo), but it still baffles me that they're not trying to build around their best performing players and just get the best from T2. How come GE got Papichulo and Yokam before TS did?

The first time I read this leak from tanmay I literally yelled "what the fuck" irl, if they officially follow through these signings I'd definitely root for GE.

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO no way ur downvoted for speaking the truth

They definitely paid him a lot of money to stay, not only that, it's probably also convenient for him to stay with a thai team than to relocate somewhere else.

Invy, maybe? Sure he'd be a pretty inexperienced IGL, but I think it's within his capability to be a reliable one. He just need the right guidance and coaching, well of course, under Jessie when he decides to quit playing and just be part of the coaching staff.

Being a part of the team for almost 2(?) years now his teammates would definitely listen to him, even more so compared to a random IGL they pull from T2 PH. This isn't just a baseless statement though, if you've watched their mic checks you could hear him calling the shots(probably a secondary caller), and not only that, even Jessie himself called him their "Boy Genius."(Not gonna read too much into this, but that definitely at least holds some weight.)

I'd be surprised if it's not in franchise.

didn't reveal anything, just the common sign gif.

He's already signed. Huge relief it's not with Bleed.

LMAO this shit funny asf idk how get downvoted for this.

Honestly, I actually think invy would be a great IGL considering he does call in their games (if you watch their mic checks), not only that even Jessie himself called him their boy genius.

Probably not, Frost said something along the lines of "... together with jitboys and ban" or something like that.

Honestly feel like he might do just as well as something in his first match (against T1), and then as time goes on, the honeymoon phase is over, he'd play just as average.

Probably not, I think no one expected them to win just because they swapped out 2 players, there is no way they think they'd win it all, especially when they're way too behind.

If you guys expected NRG to just win it all and flawlessly squeeze into a PO spot potentially making it to champs simply because they got FNS back when their next matches are against teams that looked so much better, you guys are delusional.

They're probably looking at this split to get their shit together, see how the team would look by bringing FNS back, look forward to the next season, and if they're actually able to squeeze a spot into champions then that's just a bonus.

Honestly tho, DFM does look good (or atleast better). They have very creative and new ideas, and their matches are very close as well. I have no fucking idea how they only won 2 matches in their whole year lmao.

This is fair, until this new TS can show they're competent against stronger teams I think it's fair to put them under RRQ and TALON considering they lost against these two teams in stage 1. But I'm not so sure about putting DRX over TS tbh. Yeah, TS did lose against DRX, but this DRX team is very different from the stage 1 DRX, they don't look as good as they used to be, IG losing stax did a lot of damage in this team, especially when he's considered as one of the best IGL in PACIFIC, if not the best.

So for me it'd be
TS > or = DRX, other than that would be GENG > PRX

Team Secret (3-0 in stage 2. Not even a fan but god they're good. Possibly can win champs)

blud you ain't fooling anyone, not even a 5 year old 💀💀💀

IIRC, 2GE was still in contract with RRQ back then, that's literally the only reason he was the 6th man. As for Wild0reo I have no idea, but I remember leaks of players getting trialed by TS (even players outside the Filipino scene) and he wasn't even one of them, but maybe he was but the leaks are not so reliable IG.

I'm starting to believe suggest's answer when he was asked what was wrong with the team LMAO.

Honestly, this match favors GENG, but as long as TS keeps it close I'll be glad.

He does not recognize Yoshii and Yotaa, who are half Japanese, as Japanese.

That is such a nazi way of thinking. What's wrong with this guy lmao.

LMAOOOOOOO 💀💀💀

I agree, it was one of the most boring game I've watched lmao. DFM v ZETA was much better.

He only looked good this season, but he's at least consistent. I used to say that if you see him playing good for the first 3 rounds he'd play good the whole match, but if he shit his pants at those first rounds he'd shit the whole match.

macro is different from micro, TS does look better in micro, they've got aimers now and all but the macro has gone down a bit (id say even BORKUM's attacking util is better than 2GE's, well at least for now) so def T1 is more favored to win this match, the only advantage TS have is their map pool is currently better than T1's, so if they do lose at least it won't be a 2-0

This. They really need to overhaul their coaching staff lmao.

okay I'll give it to you, they did look better and they'll probably get better but there is just no fucking way you said they're better than RRQ, TALON, and T1 LMAOOO NO WAY

That's what usually happens lmao.

crazyguy has to be one of the worse callers...

I take back what I said, TS might just win here. They have map veto advantages against T1. The only way T1 gets a 2-0 here is if they overwhelmingly diff TS, and ofc if TS somehow looks worse than their previous matches.

monyet was a monster in neon when he was in optic onic, dude literally carried his whole team to playoffs lmao.

edit: i had a brainfart

Just how many times have we seen that. They do just that, everyone praises the hell out of them, then they only play 1 match in play offs because somehow they forgot how to play again.

If they do beat GENG we all know the script lmao.

TS is so cooked ngl, saya is mental on chamber and TS just doesn't know how to counter a great chamber with an op.

T1 2-1 TS

panda ur such a fucking yapper

1. GENG
2. PRX
3. DRX
4. RRQ / TLN
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5. T1
6. TS
7. ZETA / GE
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8. BLD / DFM