what is bro on?

yall literally only care cause it was your country that won an oscar, the reality is theyre just a worthless prize

it goes to show how bad being on HLTV is when we VLR users are the ones saying it

yea honestly just let them do what they do. The skill level in CS doesnt correlate at all to valorant. Weve seen tier 1 CS players turn into nobodies or hell even rethink about moving over and go back to CS.
S1imple already struggles in ranked let alone pro play, the only good pro player i remember seeing a lot of valorant potential in was KennyS and thats because he turned an already overpowered gun into an even more powerful one.
But again that was in ranked

thats sad...

i doubt thats what hes talking about at all. Hes definitely comparing 3rd place teams and saying TL are better than all the other 3rd places in other regions

fr bro is coping so hard. Typical delusional TL fans

bro took 1 game against a mid team and decided because nats put up good numbers that hes better than a championship winner multiple time MVP

such a lame bait
its crazy that you believe half of these. I love EMEA and I think theyre hella stacked but Less worse than Nats is just pure cope and slander on Less

BaddyG is a really good option

He wasn't the reason they lost but he definitely is really bad

hes very comfortable on skye tho

reddit is a million times better of a place to look for advice than VLR x_x

andTSM are literally top 1 global so idk what youre implying

Im not comparing them wiht their iceland run, im talking about their drop off. Theyve been at the bottom for so long and they havent played anywhere near this well post iceland. The iceland run was definitely a fluke but they played much better against Lev than their performances the past 2 tourneys.
The individuals arent what im talking about, you dont have to have cracked players to be a good team

its literally just fax. I dont wanna sound like an NA fan but the Americas clearly deserves the spot. They are the most stacked region pretty clearly. FNC are just a broken team. I dont think valorant has ever seen a more stacked roster in terms of individuals

again i already said, they played great in champs and choked their knockout game. If they still had sean they would be insane rn

If you dont think zeta looked good then youre simply basing your opinions on the score line. They definitely looked pretty decent and very noticeably better than last time

man they really dont lie when they say vlr is full of shitters

says mrGoudas himself "The Bias of VLR"

By pure logic youd be able to deduce that Americas would end up far more stacked if were to assume the teams all stay the same.
The only actual top contending teams i could see in EMEA would be TL FNC NAVI and MAYBE Giants.
In the americas tho weve already seen the stars in Lev and Loud (even if lev were dismantled by Navi but i feel like thats a lot more nuanced of a discussion regarding map picks and the nature of Levs and Navis playstyles),

• MIBR were also supposed to perform much better than they did considering their players were actually all really promising before franchising.
• SEN are the closest thing to a super team next to the already proven ones.
• EG have really interesting ideas that with development I could see them competing at a sort of area Xset covered in champs.
• 100T definitely have the potential to be around the top as long as they get their mental together.
• Furia looked like they were developing the meta loud were but i guess they just werent as mechanically talented as loud and they also (i THINK) dont have a pre-exisiting core on their roster so itll take time.
• Lev look like an insanely stable fundamental team that just have so much chemistry with each other and i love their playstyle with minimal mistakes.
• And then we have NRG who are definitely already really good and everyone knows it so i dont feel the need to say much about them.

The EMEA teams for the most part looked just really boring and disappointing.

• I already knew Heretics were gonna be bad apart from keloqz so idk why i held hope but i was so disappointed in their game
• Vit look... good, just mediocre, not very impressivee but would be around middling in EMEA
• KOI also just look mediocre they dont seem like a team to contest the 4th spot
• Giants were a little less than i expected them to be but i hold hope for them getting much better and maybe contesting 4th
• TL, I dont even wanna talk about that, all i can do is pray they get better

What im saying is the Americas region just looks so much more interesting (bar MIBR C9 and Kru) and they seem to really be innovating.
Another note, Geng looked p interesting, i liked the style they played I think they might also contend for masters in APAC

In performance and even on paper Americas has so much more promise than EMEA does. Its crazy cause I think theres so much untapped potential in the tier 2 scene but for some reason no team can scout any good players other than FNC.
There were so many EU players not accepted into franchising that its amazing anyone even thought EMEA as a region were competitive.

it is fs exaggeration. I wouldnt say KOI are better than FUT but in terms of expectation and what people place them those reactions sum up my opinions.
KOI were constantly put high up in EMEA for ZERO REASON, aint none of their players do anything in the past year yet for some reason theyre regarded as a stacked team. They were fs BALLSACKS for that kinda expectation that people placed on them.
FUT meanwhile were said to be the shittiest team in EMEA and that they wouldnt even be able to take 8 rounds total across the series, for that expectation my reaction was as it was above.

KOI and FUT are much closer than people think they are but i definitely wouldnt put FUT above KOI

FNC is literally my favourite team...

call it what you want but they rolled FNC before so it is what it is

I dont suggest they get anyone. APAC has the least popular news when it comes to players, I personally think Zest did a better job IGLing than Stax has been. Zest is slow and methodical and while that didnt work for them in the past i think now theyve settled their roles really well and theyd be able to pull it off.
If not then I have no clue but theres bound to be talks of good IGLs in Korea. The sad part is, they wouldnt be able to take anyone from outside korea cause of the language barrier.

I cant believe you people dont understand what im saying
IM NOT SAYING HES BAD, READ AGAIN PLEASE

Pacific has been getting much better. Zeta looked really good, Talon far exceeded the XIA team and I was amazed that they looked to almost be going toe to toe with DRX and PRX will also come back as long as they dont troll.
Funny enough Pacific were the ones with the greatest jump in talent from single teams. Talon and Zeta are looking really solid and fundamentally sound, esp Talon. I think they could genuinely dethrone DRX (Maybe Zeta doing that is a reach but i believe Talon could)

LOUD
Lev
NRG
Furia
MIBR (on paper)
EG (well made strats that just need more developing)
SEN
100T

All these teams I feel will be better than the EMEA competitors tho, I feel like I saw much more from them. I have no hope for KOI, i never thought they were good to begin with and i dont expect them to get better. Giants have potential but not the potential like the teams i mentioned above

oh yea i mean 5th - 8th is very realistic even for the squad they have right now. but im saying they wont be competing internationally

ofc but theyve had a while to practice. We shouldnt see teams like Heretics or DFM that have literally 0 substance. We can extrapolate by looking at the minute details. It wont be completely accurate but its better than bias

im not shitting on FNCs win at all. If anything theyre the only team i wanted to win the event bar DRX (tho I knew DRX were never gonna win).
The region just is average its a fact. They didnt look impressive at all and so many top EMEA players werent even picked up for franchising, instead we got losers like starxo taking a spot on KOI.
Also yes I am judging the teams based on 1 game, but again the world isnt black and white kid. You can give different treatment to different scenarios IF theres justification.
I cant justify judging every team on just 1 game but lets take TL for example. On paper they should be a top contender in EMEA but they werent. We could say ofc maybe they had a bad game against TS, but what are the chances of that? Did TS rlly do anything after beating TL? Did TS look impressive or did TL look lost? If thats what bad looks like for TLs standards, could their good really look that much better?
Its the most basic questions like this that you ask yourself when taking into account the skill of a team. I have in my head all the justifications and ive spread my opinion. If you wanna refute it then give me facts, explain to me why im wrong. The fact that almost no one has done that yet just proves my point

im ashamed to be supporting a team with fans like you

thats an inane assessment cause there wasnt any proof that Giants played objectively worse or substantially worse against NRG than they did against DFM.
If you cant understand simple argument like that then there isnt a point in arguing cause to you clearly results are all that matter.
If a team loses in the first round then that must mean theyre worse than every team that made the second round. Its such an elementary way of thinking and its crazy how many of you think that way.
You assess the game, not the scoreboard. Thats how analysts are made and thats how they get jobs and become credible. Thats why you see so many knowledgeable people talk about how some games were closer than the scoreline would suggest

thats just your bias speaking if thats the case. Literally 2 EMEA teams made it past the second stage and only 2 more even got to participate in the second stage. Keep in mind EMEA has 2x the amount of teams that NA does. The only NA team that didnt make second stage was Sentinels and they lost to the dominant champions of lockin

Its crazy how some of you can be so unbelievably biased that you actually believe the shit you say.
I love EMEA teams and FNC are fs in contention for my number 1 team but I know when theyre shit and when they arent.

Buzz was 100% the worst IN LOCKIN
worst doesnt need to be bad, it just means the others are that much better

there are many good igls im sure, the only issue is its difficult to scout in APAC or less difficult and more the fact that there just arent many good scouts

im just being real here, it doesnt need to be a conversation about region. I enjoy good valorant regardless of where its from. I just think that currently all that good valorant is coming from the Americas and with time it will predominantly come from them

a bad game doesnt dictate a teams skill, this is what i cant stand about valo tards its almost like yall have only ever interacted with valorant esports and think youre a scholar on the subject.
There are so many variables that you have to take into account, a team cant be 100% every game and sometimes they even fall to less than 50% of their typical level but that doesnt mean theyre a bad team, they just need to bounce back.
Lev wouldve put up a really good fight against Navi had they been playing the way they did in their match against Zeta. Zeta didnt even look bad as well, Lev were just that much better

man i get so tired talking to people that just dont get it

Their split defense was completely fine, Sen were a pretty standardly good team but they went against the sharpest spear in valorant history. FNC are just that much better, weve seen them destroy other teams on other maps, hell they even rolled an insane team like Navi. By the end of the game Navi looked like they were just stuck, it was similar to how sen just didnt know what to do to adapt to a team that just shoots you whenever you try anything, or brim ults, fade seizes, kayo flashes, and flanks 3 of your team in one go before they have a chance to react.
Sen looked worse cause of how well FNC read and adapted to everything sen were doing. Sen had holes and you just cant have that against FNC, they also could use their insane talent to out aim FNC cause its pretty much an even or slightly leaning towards FNC (heavily on the day) in terms of mechanical talent.
FNC stuck with their core while Sen are p much a shell of Xset + better players. Ofc FNC were gonna win 10/10 times

yea but it isnt because theyre bad but because they were choking hard. Weve already seen 100T play at a high level but since sean left they just havent had the confidence to play the way they did before. Its like a fighter jett without a pilot. What use is a powerful jet without a jet pilot? Either Mikes needs to get his shit together or get a really good in game coach

KOI is ballsacks. I dont know where the fuck people get the idea theyre good. Koldamenta is hella oldschool, hes pretty good with fundamentals but not much more, trexx is cracked and sheydos was p bad at lockin
Dont even fucking get me started on the one time wonderkid starxo

i really dont think vitality can be a top contender at all. Theyre good but theyre a Kru kinda team where i doubt they could consistently do any major damage

my region? EMEA is weaker than EMEA?

the fact that you didnt even mention Leviatan just goes to show that you arent paying attention in the games. Lev were probably the only team to play multiple maps perfectly in the entire event

oh yea lets just randomly claim out of nowhere that Giants had absolutely no practice. Makes sense honestly, it wasnt like they had great execs and site holds with coordinated utility usage especially on Lotus or anything. So yea theyre probably gonna be the greatest team in the world honestly my bad

giants have some potential but the rest i just dont see
TL i think just werent ready, they will come back super strong

compare it to EMEA now. Other than Navi and FNC what teams even pose a threat to them?

SEN were literally the only team apart from loud and Navi that put up a decent fight.
100T constantly threw and they started winning rounds on Icebox when FNC were just absolutely trolling.
Furia pulled out a weird ass comp tho i will give them credit on haven they are really good tho i dont think theyre much more than that. FNC didnt play too well against Furia but they looked super solid and drilled against SEN.
With the way Navi got rolled tho id comfortably claim that SEN are pretty good near the top of NA.