I hv said before will say again brightest young talent of India is Levi just that he is inconsistent but that will also improve with time since he is always improving something or the other

M80 triple senti comp is very good against Mogo so OG should win but I am afraid Azys will hv busted Neon and that may prove to be the difference

10 straight rounds for Mogo , comp diff ig

He is little off today man chill, also it's team playstyle issue even Azys was struggling with Jett on ascent for a time so Mogo thought it is more of Rawfiul not using Kayo well hence they switched roles bcz initially Rawfiul played duelist on all maps and Azys was flex in this team

I think this ascent showed everything that is wrong with Mogo's playstyle- A setplay execute heavy playstyle is a direct counter to them bcz MOGo doesn't commit completely to PRX style nor GEng style of valorant.
Rawfiul kept dashing and didnt get anything on attack not bcz he was off or missing his shots but bcz his team didnt set him up even once for entry and he was always blinded , tagged or paranoid. The exact same happened on pearl in ascension I remember and people will look at stats and go the duelist guy didnt play well when in reality MOGO expects their duelist to just take 1v1 on aim and when other team doesnt give it to them then its just GGs like today

whole OG team with exception of Hellf is young ig , Mogo has Levi who is young in true sense

What happened to primmie last map 11% HS 2-7 on fk that's so unlike someone who is great at aiming ?

If you are looking to uk OG's odds are more promising , ideally the difference between 2 teams shouldn't be that big

Finally it's happening 2 contrasting playstyles
The OG veterans vs the newgen's first face off .
Gonna be a banger either way .

I don't think they got these 5 players just for off-season, I am sure they will stick with this line-up.
But yeah in case if Mogo beats them repeatedly then they might be tempted to get top-tier import or 2 to win in India

Skrossi is retiring??

Sometimes something clicks like sens or a skin or a setup uk and player becomes good

Bro starts with why Primmie shouldn't be judged rn bcz we haven't seen enough of him before casually going on to state he 'owns' everyone's fav pro in 1v1 despite him not being seen owning any pro in 1v1 except governor

Let's Go Mogo time for another finals ...

Yep it's a team game but Venka and Techno haven't even been close to him this tournament in taking people down with timing and aim

Wat looks good again and Makaveli is on different level in this tournament though it's only been 3 maps

Always has been the day he performs in ascension he would get picked for VCT

Mogo all the way !!

Wouldn't change a thing anymore xd

Yep R1sen was the igl afaik Nd with a new IGL it's always going to be hard against OG
Though I won't call them the best in India atm until they can beat Mogo eSports bcz they are ultimate raid boss of Indian T2

I have been waiting for this matchup since Ast faced Mogo boys, 2 contrasting playing styles , 2 of the most promising young Indian squads.

Has coached some good T2 teams and produced bit of results.
But is largely known for being AC for Lev at champs this year .
He is unproven in T1 level of competition bcz none of his teams have ever qualified for that but if Lev and Ge are trusting him back to back I am sure he has some good ideas

I don't get why Penta would do an exact replica of split 3 again as on off-season event??
Could hv delayed it a bit and invited GE turning it into GE vs SA event or could have tied up with others to make it an Indian qualifier for convergence or predator league .

Here's the clip for you just watch carefully you will see the knife attempt and throw, that day I could whether to laugh or get frustrated lol
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxMvVX1ZzRmbSAI_DkXrZi2oOrr4hUJdL3?feature=shared

Vaild points all here but that just shows how unstable Indian T2 is or T2 is in general. Also I sincerely believe they can go toe to toe and we peaked here last year in predator league which is basically ascension of off-season-
https://www.vlr.gg/team/14418/no-salary-peek
btw they would hv won against secret but they had that troller excali in team and at 11-9 lead assuming they had secured 12th round as it was 1v3 he and Antidote tried to knife borkum and lost the round and then the match.....

A friendly reminder Venka is yet to qualify for anything international and Techno was behind DM in only Int tourney he played i.e. convergence. Our comparison was for top Indian players so why would I bring up Ascension especially when Techno and Venka haven't even played in that for fair comparison. But yess they are young but so were Rawfiul and Karm1l same 19 y/o when they came in 2021 and look where have they reached yet but that's the thing no DM is now 27 and is still going toe to toe so I atleast overlook age as long as player is good. Venka nd Techno peeked at split 2 and that's the main tournament hence the hype but that was my point there are around 10 good players none exceptional and all equal in capability with minor differences.

Older tourneys 2023 splits and rest from 2022/21-
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1409/penta-pro-series
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1222/valorant-india-invitational-by-galaxy-racer?exclude=15083.15084.15081.15082.14602.14608.14609.14618.14619.14620.14621.14622&min_rounds=0&agent=all
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1218/the-esports-club-challenger-series-9?exclude=14067.14068.14084.14069.14089&min_rounds=0&agent=all
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1312/skyesports-sea-championship-presented-by-amd?exclude=14838.14839.14840.14841.14842.14848.14849.14850.14851&min_rounds=0&agent=all
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1609/challengers-league-south-asia-split-2?exclude=19562&min_rounds=0&agent=all
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1500/challengers-league-south-asia-split-1?exclude=16984.16985.16986.16987.16988.17027&min_rounds=0&agent=all
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/996/skyesports-champions-series?exclude=11406.11467.11477.11479.11405.11476.11478.11528&min_rounds=0&agent=all
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/840/valorant-conquerors-championship?exclude=9614.9615.9616.9617.9618.9619.9620.9563.9564.9565.9502.9503.9521.9522.9369.9370.9371.9366.9367.9368.9363.9364.9365.9251.9280.9281.9282&min_rounds=0&agent=all
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1119/skyesports-pro-invitational
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/761/wd-black-cup-season-2
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/752/the-esports-club-showdown

Again all of them tried initially and when they didn't they all went heavy trying to build a star roster which can go INT. I can answer this better but I would need to research a bit bcz I am not very knowledgeable about EMEA T2 .
I knew you would name these 2 and that's what I wanted to point out bhai it's recency bias , these 2 have been around for 2+ years now and have only started playing well literally from split 1 this year. Nobody even took their names at this time last year and you can check off season stats from last year they are nowhere in even Top 10. On top of that Venka retires. every 2 months and has low work ethic. The actual consistent guys are Deathmaker , Rawfiul, Hoax , Karm1l who have been topping the charts since 2021 with an off tourney here and there. If you dont trust me watch these stats-
Split 3 just completed- https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2155/challengers-league-2024-south-asia-split-3?exclude=27057.27058.27059.27060.27061.27062.27063.27064.27065.27066.27067.27068.27150.26833.26834.26835.26846.26847.26848.26836.26837.26838.26839.26840.26841.26208.26209.26210.26211&min_rounds=0&agent=all
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1966/omen-challengers-league-2024-south-asia-split-1?exclude=23208.23209.23210.23211.23212&min_rounds=0&agent=all
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2073/challengers-league-2024-south-asia-split-2?exclude=25307.25012.25013.25027&min_rounds=0&agent=all
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1820/the-esports-club-challenger-series-10?exclude=21075&min_rounds=0&agent=all
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1791/predator-league-india-2024
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1727/emg-series-south-asia?exclude=20154.20155.20156.20157.20158&min_rounds=0&agent=all
I will put older ones in other reply notice which names keep repeating in top 5

A core generally means any 2/3 players who have been there at every iteration of a particular team maintaining a continuity and hence help define a team identity.
This site provides a unique 3 letter tag to every team which keep a bare minimum of 3 players from their previous roster going into their new roster.
An example from Indian scene is this team currently with Mogo which has been tagged #WLD for past 3 years now- When you click matches tab you can select a core here .
https://www.vlr.gg/team/matches/14768/mogo-esports/?core_id=7695&page=4

Gentlem8 gave them a season to try and prove themselves and didn't dismiss the whole french scene through tweets like " french players will hurt comptetive integrity" and on videos without giving them even a split to prove themselves.
Also they are changing roster this season bcz riot's new system of relegation has forced them to try and outperform Apeks , a situation GE doesn't have to face thankfully bcz they are permanent representation of "Indian" scene in T1.
Also just curios which 2 players are you referring to who have been consistently performing in challengers ??

If ascension is only place to prove them wrong it's kind of hard no once a year in a super unstable scene where nothing really exists and everything is an unchartered territory. Indian T2 is a place where teams try to achieve short term glory by throwing money on finest import they can find who is willing but they only get a good coach 2 months before split 2 and sometimes only after qualifying.
#WLD core playing as No salary peek looked good in predator pacific last year but what they got in return ?- Dropped from org , non-payment, no bootcamp and couldn't even qualify to next year ascension as a result....
https://www.vlr.gg/team/14418/no-salary-peek

Dos9 reached top 5 bcz he is exceptionally gifted and that was him determined to make most of his only chance to make it to T1.
I anyways don't agree on hard naming any 2 indians as best 2 bcz the truth is we have around 10 players who are more or less equally good and none of them are exceptionally good but if you call yourself "Indian representative" it's only fair if Indians get advantage and not vice-versa happens.

It has never been about home quota but if we keep moving ahead with this thinking we will never have anyone capable enough from our home to reach there without home quota and once you don't hv anything to play for the scene will eventually die.
I am all in for GE being a top org bringing a superstar team and aiming for master and champions - I will happily get behind them and cheer for our org and not talk about Indian players in that case.
But with all the respect to new roster I have followed most of them for long and they are all top talents in T2 well most are but do I think this is that star roster which will net championships and hence is a good trade off for letting our scene to fend for themselves ?- I don't think so...
When you let 2-3 players from India play there at T1 it will automatically light fire in others and give them motivation to outperform their fellow players and take those spots and improve in process. Otherwise you can keep trying to rile them up calling them lazy and what not and they have all the pressure and anger in the world to take out at just one tourney a year- ascension and they will inevitably keep choking.

Simply not true just putting across a simple point - whenever a trial is held in Singapore server any Indian pro literally is playing a stacked field at a disadvantage and if you have played it you know how much difference the ping makes. And if you haven't you can always compare Azys' stats when he plays from his home and when he bootcamps in India - it's night and day.

Respectfully I don't think you guys are using critical thinking and are getting swayed to a side which is clearly not completely untrue.
GE as on org has been repeating this for 2 years now and yet have played 2 of their players in T1.
Their lecture only starts when it comes to guys who haven't played for them.
I would simply ask a question would you ever apply for a job where recruiter has already rejected you and people of your qualification before the interview ??
I would not and that's why GE barely had a dozen Indian pros willing to trial.

It's 5 man as of now and nope not xavi8k but Yokam, Kellys and Papichulo are 3 pinoys.
Udotan will be sentinel

First Vyse in competitive valorant or someone has tried her already?
Just checked it's the very first Vyse play in comp let's go !!

GE's roster is finalized fyi
Yokam KellyS Kr1stal Papichulo Udotan

And how will you participate in T2 India from Korea?
Ping would be too high for anything and that's the issue here , academy teams of any team which isn't based in the country where VCT splits are held won't be able to help and learn from main roster effectively

Bcz he is far too new in the scene but I don't doubt his talent.
Yokam
KellyS
Papichulo
Kr1stal
??
#GeFighting
Btw with 3 pinoys in starting 5 this is now a new team for all my PH brothers to support

I think customary predator pacific is waiting though this time event is in Malaysia so let's see who gets those 2 invitations

Def not signing him he wasn't part of trials and he has recently signed for Vlt and playing with them

I know it's a mixed tourney but Veqaj has put up an all time performance hitting 70 with +34 in just 2 maps just wow !!

He said before the match he hasn't played the game for 2 weeks lol

Yep I see him every off season looks one of the best EU player out there but nobody even brings him up for T1 discussion

NGL this NA team is opposite of other one and may get outaimed here

I think they changed it later probably thought a day break is better

Mogo for the win , one another title for #WLD core .

I am not even sure if anyone other than DM on this team went for trials, I mean we have no leaks and surely they are good enough to make it past round 1.
That day someone from GE wasn't happy and even called out many Indian pros for not applying for trials despite being F/A

Azys on a busted neon was always going to be too hot to handle for anyone