nah loud fumbled. they dropped sacy and pancada two of the best players in their roles at the end of the year, that helped them DOMINATE champs, not win, DOMINATE. there only bad maps were pearl (which was new) and fracture, they crushed everyone including optic (twice) this loud barely being able to beat meidocore intl teams says alot about how much of downgrade cuanzin and tuyz are. Now for Loud to pull out a win against a good team they need less/aspas carry, back then every member of the team could win rounds/maps by themselves.