Funny that this ain't even the only one cracking the million mark...they had like 5 others that hit a million as well on other sites

If even second worst....I think that we are completely in the same mindset here. Tho I would but NAVI above NRG on a talent perspective they also tend to be overconfident which isn't really the case with the firepower of NRG so I actually think they are better.
Just cNed alone can be a massive problem...His aim makes him look decent on most agents but he really can only play Jett to a world-class level while ardiis is very versatile and is hurting them hard in their possibilities by leaving
And I guess that's also why they don't look as polished as FPX did

Well they weren't shaky they were overconfident and not prepared....just taking solo fights and think they win by individual talent as they did in EMEA....they didn't have a really convincing game all season imo and it showed that they are not top tier ATM..
Talent to be EMEA #1 but playing like #5-6 at most

Exactly my point....so they didn't have good strats or even played as a duo to get traded....that screams unorganized and overconfident to me because of individual talent alone...shao, cned and suygetsu can decide the game but it's hard to do that against arguably a top 3 team....ange1 just to confident in his team and himself sometimes

In the comeback they looked like the NAVI people paid to come see....but only a half in the entire series

NAVI got in cause EMEA had 4 spots....and that only cause LOUD fumbled the bag in Sao Paolo....they imo weren't even worthy of top 4 but are individually better then most teams in EMEA...that doesn't fly as easy against a good and organised team like NRG
Did you think I meant NRG?

But isn't it contradicting to say they have good reads and ideas but end up dying on a solo peak? I guess they did trust their aim to much which doesn't work against a good organised team like NRG and after that ardiis e.g. were feeling themselves.
Not to throw to much shade on NAVI but they didn't look like they had any plan most of the time

If that I'd argue nats might be a touch above suygetsu but still like the other no way Navi has the finds to pull that off

Tbf if anyone was hyping up NAVI at all then they didn't watch them the entire time and just call out based on potential....that they have but they ain't got good strats or counters of any sort, just good aimers atm....but still wasn't like NRG, by many a top 3 team itw tight now, completely crushed them....they did struggle for a long time against what is a team that was lucky to be there.

You did...but sometimes you ain't got anything better to do so why not argue with brain-dead people

They are not. Just in CS tbf and noone can really argue that.
In all other games except Val we still gotta go to the back of the line behind our Asian friends :D
Valorant currently we kinda gotta give it to Americas...
But it ain't as clear cut as some make it out to be

Technically we clear NA in BR games except Fortnite...though the entire scene is dead for eSports anyway.
In LoL LEC teams at least sometime make it out of groups and be mildly competitive against Asian representatives. And the good player go chase the bag in LCS after a few seasons (can't blame them)

True if you take all Fighting games...but that would be like taking all MOBAs or all FPS into one category and then you have an even larger spread between them and the "major" eSports like Dota, LoL, CS etc.
Imo I'd say if you can't have it as a full-time job as a pro player I wouldn't consider it in the top tier as it is largely tied to viewership and therefor sponsoring.
I could e.g. argue we are better in FIFA eSports...but ain't nobody care for that either tbh

Of course they went in by their own will...so did about 60% of all the world....
As of taking Juno beach I hope you know that was in fact the weakest of them all as it was defended by 16yo boys that never held a gun before and older soldiers with limitations because of war injuries...
And what exactly did they do in Dieppe? They lost half their men, basically retreated and then took over the town after German soldiers retreated because Normandy was lost.
You proud of being part of the Manhattan project? Cause pretty sure almost every scientist that was part of is ain't proud of it.
Yes your argument is valid as of comments to eSports....what I got a problem with is bringing WW2 into it.
Believe me as a German I get taught a lot more about the WW then basically anyone so don't try and school me....we were at war with dozens of countries and even if they were part of it, the 120k that actually fought in Europe didn't swing the tide that much.

Tbf ain't nobody really talking about smash when they talk eSports...
Just no viewership so can't really call them major

You were a 1 Team region for a long time with optic being the only one competitive, 2 if you take LOUD.
You forgot EMEA did have Gambit, FPX, Acend, FNC all being mostly competitive when they attended? FPX even won with subs

If you actually think that then you might need a reality check...Americans are as arrogant as EMEA on this site and tbh most irl as well...it is just that they are currently better then us in Val that they swim on a high cause only eSports they are better in is OW cause they entire league is based there basically

tbf to him nukkye is actually good

milky way of the uk i think

the way you write yours aint the good stuff either...all you do is insult everybody that has a US or brazl flag

brother got almost spot on for the day....props to that mate.
and no reason to be mad that NAVI lost they hella shit rn/are outclassed by everyone in the tourney

well TL did look really nice in the end...and FNC just is stacked af so even if strats fail they have 4 players that can pop off any second :D

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have you not seen the entire Forums when NA wins against EMEA?? you really think that your region is ANY better?
both got about the same amount of toxic little kids that think they need to insult each other...

i dont really know tbh...
on a valo point i gotta say that americas do look hella clean right now so i guess we gotta take the L for now

100000% that tourney counts if LOUD goes on to win it
just because FNC won it in the eyes of americas it dont count as a tournament
bracketsystem was ass but so were the ones in 2022

brother arguing with WW2 stuff when the threads first message is that EMEA takes it too far :D
and btw never heard anybody mention canada when that topic comes up....the usa defeated the nazis not canada....and just saying you still not independant from the "brits" at that time so you were kinda obliged
and even if our 4th gets eliminated we still can have as many as americas in playoffs what you on about
and if you call NAVI not good what exactly are you celebrating it so much then that you win?

dont really think so but hey you got your opinion i got mine :)

but gotta admit NA looking very well drilled atm

aint nobody in americas after the ones that are in tokyo any good...
EMEA should have NAVI technically but they ass rn
mans prob never watched cause TL is scary as of now and FNC just stacked af even if they might not be the most polished
aint a single region that got more than 3 teams that are good tbh

True i must be smoking or sth...i thought they beat NRG in the league....my bad sry

as i recall NRG didnt manage that...

neither is beating FUT, KOI, KC or any of the bums....and yes FUT is 3rd but they aint it chief

NRG dropped a map against horrendous NAVI...they won in the league but that was a fluke...EG looking really nice atm but wait whether they can keep up that insane form....they riding the high right now

FNC is 3-0 against NA in 2023...not even dropping a map...
TL didnt but Gambit did and TL hella similar to them rn

cause FNS and the NRG guys got such insane trackrecords against EMEA
NAVI and FUT deserve to go...they just suck hard ngl

keep up the copium until FNC and TL school NA again....only comp team in playoffs gonna be LOUD
NA group stage demons

not really lying they didnt perform to expectations the last years...current version of them are scary tho

he can only go aggro when he plays jett...raze movement just sucks unfortunately

EMEA 2nd seed still waiting to clap your region...but they waiting cause they already in playoffs sry

ange1 should just stop trying to outsmart everyone and just start playing meta comps....they are meta for a reason

that i wouldnt argue then....but for the moment he gotta take the L still

hahahahaha nope...and you know it :)

still ask anyone s1mple still the GOAT to 90+% of all CS players and viewers

plus NAVI literally trolling with their roles....
but def deserved, should have never lost lotus even...thrown away a massive advantage

the halt is also a hand picked point in the game no?
just another point in the timeline of a game.....and if you are up 1-8 you also have a huge advantage that you obviously threw...just how tac. FPS work...you win a lot of rounds you have economic advantage that is on you losing multiple rounds in a row while being on at least equal ground financially on the round.
losing on an 8-4 half aint the problem entirely...but giving away the advantage on 8-1 is
NAVI threw in the last 2-3 rounds of regulation but should have never come to that

what do you know....the two people already IGLs in CS actually know midrounding :D

spoken too soon my man

ever heard of a team called FNC?
DRX as well mad good on their strats
NAVI jsut stupid cause they always think they smart by playing non meta comps

maybe even with shit roles they have a chance...copiumn until they have 13

yes and zyppan is just madness on raze...and you can get shao off kj...just a info drone on that...no magic everyone knows he can do