Neon, Raze, and Phoenix(as secondary duelist) all look super viable.

Chamber could actually go crazy. There's probably a lot of really good TP set ups, and lots of nice op positions. Cypher could also go crazy with locking down some paths which require jumping over the abyss. Depending on how strong the op is on this map, iso might finally have a map where he's useful.

Omen will probably be the most picked controller with his TPs and all the elevation changes. Although astra could probably set up some good trap plays.

Initiator wise pretty much everything goes except Gekko. You don't want to send lil bro to his death.

Americas: 100T, Loud, NRG, EG

Pacific: GenG, PRX, Talon, T1 or RRQ (really hard to tell)

EMEA: FNC, KC, TH, Navi

CN: EDG, FPX, Trace, and Billy will be gaming

had lots of fun; thanks for joining!

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yes, they literally copied GenG's tree room set up lmao

but I'm not a woman though...

We have gotten the most OP neon ever. Of course Miniboo is going to go crazy.

Brother, my point is literally that GenG are FAVORED on Lotus, Ascent, Breeze, with icebox being 50/50.

In order to beat G2, TH literally copied several GenG defensive setups. I'm sure GenG noticed that and will anti the anti.

Bro have you watched GenG's ascent? It legit looks like the best Ascent in the world. Reminds me of Loud 2022's Ascent. Also, your icebox stats are decieving. During stage 1, GenG experimented with t3xture on omen. Watch the 100T game to see how strong GenG's icebox is rn. As for Lotus, TH literally copied several GenG set ups in their G2 game. You think GenG didn't notice that?

I'm joining in the final round. All in on GenG

there's nothing wrong with it. TBH I prefer it to losing composure. Not that losing composure is bad either; it's totally understandable.

bruh you're not being consistent. You give Breeze to GenG (which is correct) and then somehow at the end icebox(map 2) all of a sudden TH is up 2-0.

Breeze --> GenG (GenG 1-0 TH)
icebox --> 50/50, let's give it to TH for the sake of argument (GenG 1-1 TH)
Lotus --> GenG (GenG 2-1 TH)
Split --> let's give it to TH for the sake of argument (GenG 2-2 TH)
Ascent --> GenG (GenG 3-2 TH)

GenG wins 3-2 or 3-1 most likely. hsk's antistrat is goated. The only way GenG lose is if they lose their mental. This is GenG's match to lose.

edit: nvrmd I'm a dumbass and misread what you wrote with respect to map score. The way the maps play out like I wrote above I'm pretty confident in though.

ain't no way you tried to say demon1 is more cringe than shahzam.

He would 100% be if he wins.

I think you could still argue he is even if he gets 2nd in Grand Finals.

o7

I get what you're saying, but lowkey Breach is an agent who goes against PRX's philosphy. You can stun for others, but often times that means you're separating yourself from the rest of the pack for "ideal" stuns, and that was a part of why PRX lost Lotus to G2. You want to give Jinggg and something agents which can play into the other members of the team but also allow them to play for themselves when necessary.

+with regards to breach vs Phoenix, phoenix has a wall for cutting the site which I think is more in line with PRX executes as opposed to a stun. And Phoenix ults will more likely give PRX value than 1 to at most 2 breach ults in a half.

verno

also, I'd be open to actually have jinggg play clove on some maps. Clove is definitely viable, as shown by FPX and Oxygen in NA tier2

I missed the part where neT helped M80 shit on Blinn college. Nothing against neT, just pointing out to you that dapr's secondary calling has shown demonstrable results.

Hear me out:

Neon, Phoenix, Gekko, Skye, Astra

Counterpoint: Have something entry on jett maps, forsaken play neon, and have Jinggg play phoenix. There will still be a couple of Raze maps, so Jinggg will play raze there. TBH, I would have jinggg play raze on the newer maps bc there isn't muscle memory that needs to be overwritten in terms of satchels.

Moving onto my idea for Phoenix, if you think about it, Phoenix is really a flash initiator.

Breach vs Phoenix:
2 flashes vs 2 flashes
aftershock vs molly
stun vs wall

Jinggg can flash for his teammates as well as himself. Plus he can use the wall/molly in set executes. Jinggg has shown comfort in the phoenix.

Solo phoenix duelist like Loud was trying to do is stupid, but Phoenix played as a secondary duelist really acts as a supporting flash initiator. + since Phoenix ult is low orb count, Jinggg will get run it backs online quickly, which will be super useful in retakes.

yeah

bait used to be coherent

keke/10

nah, they fit each other just fine

if he isn't being boosted, then bro has entered flow state.

JasonR is that you?

I only mentioned you because you taunted me on an alt.

And stop capping. Only a guy who created an alt using a vpn in a different timezone would deny an account as being his alt because of different timezones. A normal user would simply deny having an alt; they wouldn't bother with checking timezones. It's hilarious how you out yourself. You did it with the "mintibars" alt too.

what Brimstan wrote in case he tries to edit:
"Last time I checked it was you that has been mentioning me non stop.

Also that isn't my alt because unless I operate in two different time zones, it isn't possible which you would know if you didn't have the critical thinking skills of a 3rd grader"

bro taunts me on his alt bc he is still pissed at me, I point out the real reason why he's doing it, and now he's replying to me on two accounts. This guy is an absolute clown.

Stay away from me you fucking freak.

I don't understand what you're looking to get out of this.

Bro let me have munchkin as an IGL. You don't have him in your lists.

bro said he owns himself lmao

keep malding brimstan

brother stop with these sub-par baits. We know you were originally a SEN flair.

he is a baiter. He used to shill for NRG and SEN.

he's probably a bandwaggoner. OG PRX fans are dissapointed at the recent result, but we meme on ourselves harder than anyone else.

welcome to vlr.gg, where attention-deprived children seek acknowledgement by spamming shit talk about the most clouted player who recently lost a game

NRG has yet to win a round in scrims

ain't no way you revive this shit thread for this

PRX can come up with util combos termi could only dream of. That's not the problem. PRX players need:

1. a sports therapist/mental coach
2. a positional/fundamental coach to ram into their brains to stop ego peeking with zero util and dying as kayo with 2 unused flashes

Absolutely not

it's very difficult. If i were PRX i would ban bind and float breeze, but idk.

thanks for the links. added.

hello?

I'm not even hating though.

Yeah I saw this linked somewhere else as well. Kind of adds to the hypocrisy of it.

I would appreciate a response from you to #140. Also, just because you are frustrated that your argument is getting weaker, that's not a good reason to devolve to ad hominems.

Yeah, i saw that too. I'm doing my best to engage genuinely though.