Masters Format is actually good

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ThiiFps

in Brazil, people from CS (Gaules and their follows) are making some criticism about Masters because of the format that put 4 teams in next stage of tournament relative to the rest

i understand the criticism but i understand more why riot make this format, we are playing a final of split, this isn't a Champions (the worlds/major)... it is a "playoffs with best challengers teams" and its fine give more points to best teams of biggest regions

what do you think?

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Tokyo777

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i hope next masters will not be the case where some teams directly advance to playoffs
that is my only concern

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ThiiFps

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so, no advantage to the winners from EMEA, NA, APAC and BR/LATAM, right?

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Tokyo777

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yes...it should like that..didnt u see team throwing for seeds after the qualifications?
if not special seeding...teams fight for money

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so you wouldn't want a BYE to the playoffs and hence you would throw? what are you saying

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ThiiFps

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i understand you

but i like the seed 1 get space more deep in tournament, like as a said, its like a international playoffs of the split

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Tokyo777

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if we see this masters...KR JP LAT has 1 slot...so if they play ...they would reveal the strats...and teams in playoffs can beat easily...
if ppl want special seeding ....then 2 slots from each region so that they can give special seeding to #1 team from that region

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ThiiFps

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but that the exactly point to get special seeding

more than good place in tournament, it is more time to get ready and see what others teams are doing

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How about 16 teams with top 1 EMEA, NA, APAC and BR/LATAM as pot 1 like in UCL or WC?

#20

ThiiFps

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i think for Champions its good this and i believe this will happen really

but for Masters... this isn't special because its a finals of the split

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NightBeam

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"but for Masters... this isn't special because its a finals of the split"
Sorry, but that explains nothing.

Instant playoffs is an excessive advantage. -2/3 Bo3 is a huge gap.
Why not follow systems that already work for decades?

Pot 1, 2, 3 and 4 like Teach said is the best way to reward VCT region champions

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ThiiFps

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i like the teams that got already to next stage and i dont care if others systems worked for long time, everythink can change

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NightBeam

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So basically you're biased. Understandable, have a good day.

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ThiiFps

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biased because what?

if biased because i dont care about systems worked: i think new formats are made because people dont like a previous one, right?

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no ur wrong, gaules is right

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Tomstar124

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I’m personally not a big fan if the seeding matches were gonna be worth so much it should have been on LAN aswell

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ThiiFps

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i think every challengers will be on lan soon, so this isn't gonna be a problem i believe

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The format is decent for a 12 team tournament, but i personally dont like 12 team tournaments. Would prefer a 16 team tournament with old format

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ThiiFps

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16 teams will be back at Champions, dont worry

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Mca

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I expect at Least Champions with 24 Teams.
Imagine Champions with Swiss-system tournament.

It would REALLY define the best of the entire World.

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Mbappe

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Inviting more teams just means you invite lesser teams. With this compact tourney you actually get the best of the best and almost no walkover matches

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ThiiFps

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if Champions goes to 24-teams format, there will be play-In like LoL

and i personally dont like the play-in format because some regions get no space

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GLN321

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I mean, Loud just won two matches and is already guaranteed top 3. I think its better to have more teams in group stage and then a single elim play offs bracket

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ThiiFps

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no, single elimination is by far the worst format for Valorant

we don't get really 2 best teams in grand final

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GLN321

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it's not worth it imo, having a second chance takes away a lot of the pressure and excitement behind watching a match. Imagine that yesterday's DRX vs OPTIC was an elimination match for a spot in the final, it would've been the best match oat probably, but now DRX have a second chance so it became kinda meaningless. Also it's not that fair that the win that goes straight in to the grand final doesn't get a second life, and there's a good chance that the grand final is a repetition of the upper finals. Most sports and esports in the world prefer single elim for playoffs for these and many more reasons

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ThiiFps

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you have a good point but one of the reasons of single elimination can be bad its because luck factor (take a team in bad day, take a good bracket, so on)

and i believe for a game like fps and Valorant, its important a double elimination bracket, if goes to a single i wanna a Bo5 playoffs

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One potential upside to seeding teams directly into playoffs is that it insures diversity of regions in playoffs. Playoffs were always going to have at least 4 different regions this tourney. Apposed to Champs which was a larger tourney with more teams from other regions that had only had 3 different regions in playoffs. Is it a good thing and do you get to see the best Valorant? idk