SA OCE and MENA the only minor regions now

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china too but they really havent gotten a chance give them 1-2 years im sure they will be a top region.

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SA=south asia not LATM

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Imo oce not a minor bcz they hv a got only 1 chance but i can agree with sa and mena

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OCE is a minor region i love bonkers but still a long way to go

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Agreed, bonkers core blew up didn't they?
Hopefully ORDER can do qualify for Stage 2 APAC and do some damage, considering they qualified for NA LCQ last year and couldn't attend.

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OCE only got 1 chance to compete in international tour which is Bonkers in Challengers and South Asia got their chances in LCQ and Challengers.

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chloeburbank

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yeah both regions doesnt get enough chances to compete against other regions

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OCE has talent imo but since we are so far away from everyone we don't have much opportunity to grow

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Sad reality

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chloeburbank

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did they have this issue in other e sports scenes? and if they did, were they able overcome?

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Hasbulla

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yes and yes, we got investment by biggers orgs like Renegades in CS and they had a good run reaching top5 in the world once.

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i think in CS some teams would do bootcamp overseas but not too sure

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Overwatch scene couldn't overcome

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Stopped reading when i saw china

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chloeburbank

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then why bother commenting ?

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Bo0mShell

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OCE should just make a superteam like LOUD from Brazil
Who would be the best picks? Imo
rDeeW
WRONSKI
NiceHacks
tixx
(idk)

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Tokyo777

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Minimise

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Bo0mShell

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Well then that's just Bonkers + WRONSKI

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rDeeW and tixx don't play for Bonkers anymore

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Bo0mShell

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I meant stage 1 roster

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I just wanna see ORDER compete internationally since they qualified for NA LCQ last year but couldn't attend.
Then we blow it all up and make a superteam ;)

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Let's see how South Asian teams play at the next challengers event, hope it won't be disappointment again, the only way south asia can improve in itself is by it's local tournaments, it has decreased quite a bit~

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Tokyo777

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U can't improve by playing in ur own region.
That too when u don't have different approach to the game. We just learn and copy from other regions. Coaches are very important in SA

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Yea hopefully it changes now cause so many new teams are being formed, team have started hiring full time coaches, some imports coming in the regional competition is gonna increase massively

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Bo0mShell

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EG just needs to not throw before even the match starts on agent select itself

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mena yes
OCE idk
SA probably yes
CN idk

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OE yes sadly

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oh :(

i like OCE but idk why riot dont make the continent a really region to give a real opportunity

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Bo0mShell

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No viewership like JP or KR. They are not even a continent but still a region.

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ThiiFps

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OCE have a direct slot in multiples eSports, even in LOL

thats why i dont understand give only 1 spot at a "Qualifier" from another region

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Oh I didn't know that

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There is not enough of a playerbase and viewership is VERY low, there is no point in them making a whole circuit for OCE. So we have to compete in the APAC one, but since Australia is sooo far away, scrimming against teams in SEA is always on high ping. The only way OCE will improve is if they bootcamp in Asia

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still unfair the fact of OCE dont have a direct slot at a masters event for example

like i said in #34

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ye true

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Wait anybody know what happened to order? It Looks likes 2 of their players left?

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chloeburbank

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thats what happens when u get upset by orgless teams, sadge

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Hasbulla

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ye they are still looking for two players, but they are already in group stage so they have time.

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https://www.vlr.gg/83940/sources-bonkers-core-splits

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damn i missed that, sadge

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ouch, reality check

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SA can only improve when new players come, which are not egoistic like these ones, also which are disciplined. Oce on other hand will prosper in apac

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Bo0mShell

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EG players are not egoistic tho or atleast I don't think so. Even Vlt has just 2-3 egoistic players

That's the main reason I want these 2 teams to improve and succeed

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SKara

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By egoistic I mean they dont wanna give control to coaches and then do what they have in mind which is too unstructured it leads to them losing their little bit of discipline and they look so lost

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Yeah. EG doesn't have that problem is what I was saying. Even Vlt got a coach iirc for VCC 2 as soon as they realised

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SKara

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Although I have to agree eg players are very humble and also open to changes

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chloeburbank

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true SA players run on emotion and not fundamentals, they keep washed players and refuse to change, OCE is better than SA rn. Bonkers and order are making roster moves soo early after their loss which means they are competent and want to improve unlike SA

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forgot ch/tw, idk why they doesn´t play, cuz in the lcq of asia they gonna play but doesn´t play cuz covid situation (if I´m not remember bad) and valorant was realised in ch.

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TW already plays with HK and was in APAC playoffs, i dont know when chinese team can compete with apac tho

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thx for the info bro, appreciated