UNPOPULAR OPINION

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wohe

SEN's run at masters 2 is one of the easiest and luckiest runs in the history of valorant, and they won't make any more runs.
Also bcz it's the first one we're gonna hear about it for the next 2 years

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delusional_sentinels_fan1

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"unpopular opinion"

Also nothing was lucky or easy. They played the competition that was in front of them and did it excellently. They are bad now but that doesn't take away from past performances. Do you not remember they still won NA tourneys up until after masters 3?

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wohe

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but i'm not talking about NA competition since there was no competition, i'm talking about EU and KR's best teams not being there

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None of these mickey mouse "tournaments" mean anything until we have a crowd.

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lmao

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anuma108

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You mean Masters 2

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wohe

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ty

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sheahhhh

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Lucky, no, washed. Yes

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Ullyr

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Tbf i feel like back then there weren't a lot of competitive teams. Now it seem like every region has one team that's pretty competitive.

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wohe

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yeah that's what i wanted to say but english baaaaaaad

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Other regions send not their best teams
Emea send fnc and tl( 2 honeymoon teams bruh)instead of fpx and gmb
Kr send nuturn instead of vs
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All favourites teams from other regions just chocked to make this sentinels run possible

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delusional_sentinels_fan1

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FPX LMAOOOOOOOO. This is how I know you guys are a bunch of history revisionists. FPX wasn't even close to being the best team at the time and fnatic was obviously the best EMEA team at the time.

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So cringe when na trying to talk about emea

Fnc were not even close to be the best

Fpx won 1st eu Challengers of 2 split, fnc only second
Fpx played in a group of death when fnatic had tr teams and guild in their group . Just like this time lmao

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delusional_sentinels_fan1

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FPX were chokers and were never going to do shit at LAN. FNC was the best EMEA team.

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wohe

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FNC and liquid were no where to be found at masters 1 eu and chocked in challengers 1 i believe or at least liquid, so no you're completely wrong FPX was the best eu team at the time

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delusional_sentinels_fan1

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Both had significant roster changes after masters 1 which is why they became the best. By this logic because FPX weren't at champs it means they fluked this challengers first seed?

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wohe

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what are you talking about? i answered your question for liquid and fnatic being the best teams at the time which is not the case
as for FPX they played groups and playoffs so they faced every one and didn't have an easy group or smth

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Yeah thats what people with brains call honeymoon phase you know? You can be good only on a short distance. Time show the truth.
FPX qualified to every eu event with same roster. People with brains call it consistent good results. Your best emea team not qualified to next emea and sucked balls when tried to play even lvp (because they had nothing to play) lmaoo

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yuri_tarded

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Lmao you can repeat it even 100 times if you want to convince yourself, but the real fact is that fnatic had easier group

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wohe

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you don't watch emea bro they were counted as the best team in eu bu they chocked a lot

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nuturn wasn't the best korean team but they overperformed and exceeded people's expectations and even took a map against fnatic

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CowboySG

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Sentinels was easily the best back then, but going towards Berlin they didn't have the competition to adapt to the new meta, and by the time Champions rolled around it hit NA in the face.

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wohe

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check #10

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CowboySG

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I would agree except Sentinels absolutely dominated. Can you say they got a favorable run? Yes. They still had the most dominant masters performance to date though.

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Smartest_EU_Fan

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Acend winning champions was luckier, Vivo Keyd >>>

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wohe

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do you know that Acend won against G2 in EMEA group stage, now according to your logic Acend should claim every win G2 will achieve and we should discredit every match they win from now on and label it as lucky just for the fact they did bad 1 single game.
man i can't deal with braindeath
acend beat every team that was a favorite to win champions OPTIC, LIQUID, GAMBIT, what do you want more bruh?

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"Also bcz it's the first one we're gonna hear about it for the next 2 years"

Nobody talks about those since, you know, they're the first pilot tournaments and they're given less relevance

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wohe

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in terms of talking about NA there will always be those people that thought NA dominated valorant for a period of time which was just luck