M8s will crumble during split 1

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MrBlooBloom

I don't think the IGLing will necessarily be their problem even thouh minny's performance will definitely get worse, but RobbieBK was bringing so much vibes , which is something that Kamyk definitely doesn't do. Vibes are a very important thing for a young team likely to have confidence issues during tough games. Kamyk isn't a big upgrade in terms of firepower or agent mastery either and they will probably lack pratice at the beggining of the split as well. Future is very uncertain for this org, and even if they make it to playoffs I highly doubt that they won't get relegated

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elendooo1

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Id honestly start a new roster all french wich is how they got to t1 and hope for the best if they go back down ATLEAST they tried to represent Baguette land

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gamergirl

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will be partnered next year 100%

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MrBlooBloom

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that's likely but they still won't perform I'm afraid

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gamergirl

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aslong as we dont lose click minny and kadavra we will win next season with a new coach tbh

i dont see why overreaction

a lot of potential with this core aslong as theres a good coach coming soon

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MrBlooBloom

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win the next season of ascension maybe (if Pacific doesn't fumble like m80) but I don't think the org is managed by competent enough peoples for it to have much hope in the next few years. There also is a big lack of money for them to be competitive in valorant

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Congo1

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Kcorp paved the way. They can do the same with time

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MrBlooBloom

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yeah that's why I specified "in the next few years" , but I still think KC is managed by much more knowledgeable persons

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Congo1

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Well... Were they that knowledgeable when they started? They gained that knowledge as they went along. If anything M8s have the advantage of studying KCs blueprint

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MrBlooBloom

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that's why they got scammed in 23, but they got kinda lucky to be this successful in 2024 imo (they managed it well tho, but still)

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MrBlooBloom

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show me 5 french players who will make the team decent then (also gotta fire goked and find a better coach)

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Congo1

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Natank kadavra veqaj lux sh1n

Alternatively add yohpa

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MrBlooBloom

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tier 5 farmers unfortunately. I have no hope for france (maybe I'm delusional but Turkey is too powerful)

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Congo1

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I am not saying this team is winning masters but if liquid can do what they did this team can be competetive at least. They just gotta click as a team and have good coach

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MrBlooBloom

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Are we acting like TL don't have Nats, keiko and Patitek ?

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Congo1

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right now patitek is not to be named in the same vein as the other two.

I dont see why the french players cant be equal or better that kamyk keiko and patitek. Their ceiling is probably not as high as liquids due to nats and keiko but there is a world where they could squeeze into champs maybe. I definitely think they could be competetive in the league.

But we are not turkey. That is true.

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MrBlooBloom

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patitek is definitely not as good as the other two, but he was a major factor to their run in EMEA.
And maybe I'm not understanding you correctly but are you suggesting that M8s have a chance at qualifying for champs w the current roster, or with the one you proposed?

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Congo1

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Honestly, both. I think its very possible albeit as clear underdogs.

They are not KOI or Apeks who have no chance

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MrBlooBloom

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they are in a way better state than last year but there is no way to do it with a coach like goked. Even 2023 fnatic wouldn't be able to

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grisx23

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Tbf they never stood on anything to crumble. Consistently ass

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Huitzilopochtli

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i think the Roster has good firepower, esp players like Click and Minny are very young (18 and 19) and their potential is through the roof, Kadavra is one of the better smokers in the league and Zyppan and Kamyk have good util, tho Vibe wise they will def take a slump bcs Robbiebk was just incredible as a person (insane Vibes and so good looking like damn) Kamyk is a mediocre upgrade in firepower and a downgrade in vibes, i think there r other players that could fit better in the team and that could bring the current M8 onto a new Level gameplay wise, the core is insane (kada, Click and Minny) but there can still be upgrades made