So.... yay wasn't the problem?

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BathW0ter

they losing again (speaking like a recency bias driven vlr degen)

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a roster has to have more than 1 problem to be as bad as it was

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yeah, plus chamber merchant or not, a winner gotta have that dawg in him no?

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no, but y0y wasnt helping it

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BathW0ter

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He needs that fenis aura. Crazyguy just doesnt have it

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Deryeon the paycheck stealer is the problem

he peaked at 2021 idk why people still overrating him KKKKKK

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Apart from yay, I feel bad for zest aswell ngl

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oh well it is what it is

the coach set yay up for a failure by putting him on viper

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BathW0ter

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plus that neon breeze too

and lets not forget skye

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Lmao u just came out from a cave? They've confirmed that y0y wants to play viper (he got good kda in scrims) and raze

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surely yay who plays duelist his entire career wants to play viper out of nowhere

least braindead crazyguy fan

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raviolii

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pLays DuEliSt hiS enTirE caReeR XD Please find out which role Chamber is famous for.
I can see that you never follow the videos the coach, the players confirmed that xD. They even suggested him to play Chamber but he refused xD
Also I'm sure that u dont know he did not play chamber for a while (he also banned the word Chamber on the twitch chat).
His duelist plays in Jett is MID, Raze is -10/10. Even my little brother 15 years old can use satchel better than him.
Rebuttal please?

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yeah aint reading all that

delusional crazyguy fanboy

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raviolii

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haha it is what it is! keep dreaming y1y fans! You can't even contribute a clue to the debate.
Sure no teams will hire your goated player, BLD made an idiot moves to throw a bag of money on him for 1 win!

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FDWC-

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same with crazyguy

blud got 0 win this season KKKKKKKKKKK

atleast y0y got an international trophy

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BathW0ter

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I guess it is what it is. Plus since he couldn't perform official, the community will never let him forget it

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well tbh yay wanted to play these agents. i guess he wanted to prove that he can be flexible and play other agents than chamber and jett which unfortunately didn't work out. now you could blame the coach that he didn't interfere but on the other hand according to sscary yay played really well on these agents in scrims. we don't have the insights we would need to really judge yay or the team in general, but there were things going on behind the scenes that weren't right, that's for sure. i hope both yay and the team can bounce back, whatever path they choose.

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BUFF163

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yay was A problem (the biggest in fact)

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BathW0ter

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Why do you think he was the biggest problem (unless you mean literally)

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-crazyguy +yay

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even tho they lost they looked 100% better than stage 1 or kickoff bleed
kickoff and stage 1 bleed didnt even look like they are playing in team look liked solo queue
but this atleast look like team just need to grind now i guess

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Hope so. I wanna see scary and zest do good

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they look better with than actual igl, idk what they were doing stage 1

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TS is still a mid tier team in Pacific
I don't know why people expect a bottom tier team to magically be good after changing 1 person

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What does that mean for NRG then

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TS no longer counts as mid tier, even in pacific now, imo

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In my opinion (You are free to agree or not),maybe Bleed problems are with IGL which is not creative and very easy to read, duelists not looking good for aiming and open maps (both yay and deryeon), and the coach is always late make descission for a time out (sorry my english is bad)

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y1y

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kaninv

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retla is worse than egoist (terrible roster move)
deryeon about as bad as yay in t1
zest great supportive player but needs a strong system (next point important)
legija is not a good coach
sscary good but taking no risks or space as controller on attack + he's snaked before (not good team environment)
crazyguy insane falloff

I think they need to get a new coach and duelist and if that doesn't work maybe sentinel