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Sliggy is wrong

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#1
NexusNomad

https://youtu.be/3OSRnwXN6sw

Just saw this video where he discusses and rates how good clove will be on all maps, the main problem with it is, he is assuming that clove smoke range after dying is the same as before dying. This changes the entire list. He says clove can lurk (implying that clove could potentially replace a sentinel like on ascent with double controller comp) and even if she dies she can still smoke but he uses the range of smoke she has before she dies.

Omens paranoia is way too good and will be one major reason why omen will always be picked over clove. And TMV made a good point ,why would you want to die and play post plant with your smokes after death ability when you can just live and add extra firepower, this is where omen tp plays a big role he can just tp to a safer location and wait for his teammates. Also forcing double controller on maps just to play clove limits certain plays, like is it worth to replace jett with clove in icebox. Plus omen paranoia is used for both site retakes and execs so having him will always be useful over you having a dead agent who can only smoke in a limited region and has an ability which is a cheap version of fades seize.

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GaeHGae
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*they

#3
number1_cned_hater
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Fuck u I actually read allat to see where they didnt use they

#4
NexusNomad
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I'm not wasting my time on this.
If you want to use they/them so be it.
I want to use he/she, either accept it or fuck off. I'm not interested in this conversation

#7
MakiXOS
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fucking dick

#12
kevshare
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proceeds to waste his time on this who cares what u want to use thats not their pronouns..

#5
cboomer
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nah shes pretty good just dont die lurking lol

#8
NexusNomad
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Easier said than done
If you watch split games you will see defenders usually hold mid till the very end even after spike plant to prevent potential lurks. So idk about that.

#6
Twentytwo
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I'm happy/sad for you

#9
Sliggytv
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I checked the range after dying and gave you an easy way to work it out in valoplant. Here is a timestamp https://youtu.be/3OSRnwXN6sw?t=150 for the part you seem to have missed

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NexusNomad
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Wait I swear it looked much smaller. I didn't try it out yet but if it is the same then ig I was wrong. And I take back what I said.

But my points on why omen will always be used over clove still stands.

#11
cobalt21312
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omen flash will still make omen > clove but imo clove is good enough that I hope some teams run them

#13
StyrofoamOne
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her q is pretty good but her c is pretty selfish asw as her ult (not much teamplay)

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