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The FPL talk

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#1
Esports_connoisseur

-Please DO NOT add an FPL system at least not a third party one.
-The FPL system should not act as an alternative to ranked.

-Hear me out, this is gonna be a long-ass thread.

-The Esports POV
-FPL was added to CSGO cuz there were a hella lot of cheaters and no comm players. ( Basically, valve didn't care ).
-Pro players will keep playing with pro players... in this case top 20 which is based on VLR.
-Then people who are out of the system(Riot games is the system) get to dictate who will play with the pros and who will not. This leads to gatekeeping.
-Soon Riot will franchise their league for pro play and the "Top 20" will completely be from third-party hosted tournaments. The top 20 is at least ok now since there are open qualifiers for riot events, which will go if riot franchises the league.
-This basically adds nothing to the scene but makes it harder for upcoming players to shine.

The pro player's POV
-They straight up get no comm teammates in every single one of their games.
-Some argue that there is more team play, which I feel is only because of lesser comms, and as people start comming it naturally paves the way into team play especially in valorant.
-Valorant is a new game and having different agents in the game actually encourages more and more team play. ( Of course, u need comms for that too)
-Like u don't get teammates in CS who actually flash you into the site.

The casual but competitive player's POV
-I want to showcase my skills and ability to play in a team environment with pro players.
-I will miss playing against huge streamers.
Just an example-- when I got into gaming with Fortnite going against famous streamers and pro players or even playing with them is such a good experience. Like if I get into a match with say myth or hiko for that matter, I get madly excited cause he is famous and I get to play with him. (ppl don't understand this value until they actually get to play with them.
-When there is only the leaderboard where pro players actually only que rarely I just get so sad when I cant show my skills.

Suggestion or ideas from other games
-Riot could do something like must voice comm for immortal+ players. ( or even diamond for that matter)
-Pro players can make play FPL in the form of show matches, where "the best" play against " the best".
-FNCS in Fortnite is a sick example can people can que in professional games with a stake like money or an in-game item, like a prime vandal if you win the weekly showdown or something like that. This could potentially be an only immortal+ or radiant only thing. where randoms are made to compete in random teams together. This can encourage more team play.
-I heard there is a system called clash in League of Legends which is similar but I don't clearly know the details, cuz I really don't follow or play casual league, only watch the professional league.
-One could argue that league is a MOBA, Fortnite is a Battle Royale, while Valorant is a tactical FPS game. But the last TAC FPS game was CS: GO and valve didn't really care about the casual scene.

I would love to hear all the thoughts from others and pro players if they wanna reply to this post.

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Rogue_Angel
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Actually a good read! Never saw it from this perspective. You have some good points. Riot can implement sick ideas without so much backlash easily. Comparing this game in an aspect like this to CSGO is so important cuz valve actually has never cared about the casual scene.
+1 from me boss

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anothervlruser
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imagine clash system in valorant that would be so fucking pog also the idea where mandatory comms in from diamond+ is actually sick that should happen. i want mandatory comms

#4
Seldruddd
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Yes good thread have been saying this recently. The only reason FPL/Esea was a thing was because csgo match making was unbelievably bad with cheaters/horrible servers etc. If you played csgo you understood you had to go through a literal fucking gauntlet to get into FPL that basically forces you to play for more than 12 hrs a day. The FPL scene is also a shit show mess filled with unnecessary drama. People are so quick to complain about the match making but the game is so new just give it time Riot actually CARES.

#5
Demi
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Wonderful thread! Keep it up my guy :)

#6
beb0p
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tldr

#7
hekzy
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tldr there is no no-comm players in immortal-radiant. There is no way you can rank up to that point without having teammates grief you for being a mute bastard or without being a completely useless piece of the puzzle.

Also, ive never been immortal but people here claim there are no cheaters (i disagree)

#8
Rogue_Angel
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no one said there are no cheaters there are but very low

#9
FireII
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most cheaters get banned before unlocking comp, and the ones who make it past the system are bound to get banned, like solista who got banned yesterday

#10
hekzy
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it took 7 months to ban niSay tho

#11
FireII
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most. the number in comparison to the few standouts we see is a big difference, but then again we don't know if there are more cheaters who are out destroying ranked

#12
DELUSIONAL_NUKKYE_FAN
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I mean they tried it with VPD, it lasted about a month before dying

#13
krono
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add 5 stack ranked again its a 5v5 tactical fps game lol not league of legends

#14
beb0p
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BUT THATS UNFAIR TO SOLOQERZ

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krono
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i mean if they add another rank thing like LoL where u have flex queue, 5 stack vs 5 stack, and 3 stack vs 3 stack or something, im sure they can think of something

#15
Rogue_Angel
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why u don't wanna comm to a ranked game? but in a discord, i don't get what 5v5 stacked has to do with a tactical fps

#17
krono
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why would u NOT be allowed to play with 5 of ur friends in a FPS game like what??? name 1 fps game other than valorant thats only solo/duo q lol

#18
anothervlruser
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i only know 3 fps games... crossfire and cs... honestly I get why u would want 5 stacks but still

#19
sweetishchef
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Most people who don't 'COMM' are usually because they are busy attending online zoom classes and should be in school xD

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