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riddle me this SEN gang

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#1
cartixuzi

if keznit had an objectively way better year with more matches played on a worse team overall, then why are we pushing the narrative that Zekken is 100% a top 3 duelist in Americas? Even if you guys think Zekken > Jawgemo (wrong), keznit is also there. If we're saying that Zekken is top 1 if he was on a good team, then wouldn't keznit be the GOAT to you guys?

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number2_cNed_fan
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cNed

#3
babysasuke
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objectively keznit = aspas on entry

#4
cartixuzi
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hes a bit too good

#5
TheAceGamer30
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Keznit clears

#6
Liem
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1 - aspas
2 - demon1
3 - keznit
4 - leaf
5 - jawgemo

zekken not even top 5 sadly

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number1_cned_hater
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why is leaf on this

#8
Asuna_Yuuki
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leaf was the second best players in Americas

What did zekken do?

#9
number1_cned_hater
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Zekken was on a struggling sentinels ,was their best player and still put up numbers on initator. He recently started playing duelist and diffed leaf in the g2 showmatch.

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Asuna_Yuuki
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Ok but it is very reasonable to rank leaf above zekken

Leaf was in the argument for the best player in Americas last year while zekken was irrelevant

Off season show matches mean little to nothing

#11
number1_cned_hater
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read the last part... zekken literally just became main duelist and hes putting up numbers

#12
Asuna_Yuuki
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In the offseason…

Leaf put up better numbers against better competition in the real VCT

Recency bias is crazy

Leaf definitely clears for now

#13
number1_cned_hater
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BRO ARE U FUCKING DUMB I SAID ZEKKEN JUST BECAME A DUELIST ONLY MAIN FOR SENTINEL AND "RECENTLY" HE LOOKED GOOD ON IT?? CAN U NOT COMPREHEND BASIC SHIT?? HE WASNT ONLY DUELIST BEFORE ON SENTINEL HE JUST STARTED BEING ONE

#14
Asuna_Yuuki
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Im just saying that is not enough to justify ranking him above leaf

How don’t you understand what I am saying

#15
number1_cned_hater
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leaf is literally the most inconsistent player where was he in lcq where was he in the matches that mattered

#17
Liem
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if u just look at last year and ignore all the mickey mouse events in the offseason then there is no way you put zekken higher than leaf

#18
ionlyHave1Zuni
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keznot is a fraud, zekken clears in every aspect

#19
afflict3d
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zekken eye test clears but keznit is also up there fs americas r just different

#20
Asuna_Yuuki
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Keznit was the top rated player in LCQ

Second highest rated player at champions

Outperformed Zekken in the regular season

It just makes zero sense how anyone could rank Zekken above Keznit at this point in time.

Keznit is WORLD CLASS and was better at every point last year

#21
ionlyHave1Zuni
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"second highest rated player at Champions"

2 matches played + smoke merchant

#22
afflict3d
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i think when i watch both zekken is just more impressive idk, keznit is close tho

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