Schedule is AWFUL continued

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kaninv

Faze in Counter-Strike during 2023 played 165 maps on LAN totaling 74 matches, one match every 5 days.
Val players on a good year play 31 matches TOTAL including a SEASONAL ROUND ROBIN FORMAT so one nearly every 12 days. this is pulled from fnatic, who had the most matches through the year to my knowledge (or at least larger riot ones)
and yes, it gets worse when we put in only the actual international tournaments, where, if you were fnatic and won every single match in champs, tokyo and sao paulo you'd only have 16 matches played through the year internationally, one nearly every 23 days.
let's say you're an unfortunate org like KOI?
1 international match in a year, LOCK//IN. you play your regular season, some playoffs, maybe a crossfire cup (all EMEA tournaments) and that's your entire year.
the system is broken. this cannot be all we can offer to these teams.

my proposition:

regional leagues should have 3 seasons to qualify for tournaments and each season you can go to the big tournaments if you're at the top
this would mean teams have multiple seasons to improve rather than just one where if you lose like 5 matches it's over
have (region) spring for masters 1, summer for masters 2 and fall for champs
winter offseason to align with contract expiration

for example
VCT Americas Spring (top 4 to Masters 1)
VCT Americas Summer (top 3 to Masters 2, top Americas team from Masters 1 auto quali)
VCT Americas Fall (top 2 to Champs, top Americas team from Masters 1 and masters 2 auto quali)
teams if they want can grind off-season tournaments during the winter offseason

could easily be done like:
Late January - Mid March: Spring season, Masters 1 late March
Mid May - Early July: Summer, Masters 2 Mid July)
Late August - Early October: Fall, Champs Late October)
November-almost February: off season (contract expirations and roster changes)

bottom teams get guaranteed 30 matches through the year, if a team wins every match through all 3 seasons its 45 matches. if they win all 3 tournaments like 66, 70 max. seems like a lot (and close to the CS one) but regular season matches are BO1 (all 30 guaranteed matches) so truly it'd be more like 68 maps through regular seasons and in tournaments maybe 29 more so 97 maps (faze played 165)

TL;DR: schedule ass, have seasonal schedules with winter season off. each season qualis to masters 1, 2 and champs

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number1_cned_hater

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Val players always bring up burnout, but u barely play that much do get burnout u dont even play more than 20 games a year without counting offseason games

#3

kaninv

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burnout playing a match every 12 days. I understand someone brought up scrims and needing to adjust meta and map rotation, but that's like two to four times a year. that does not require such a crazy amount of effort to make up for the gap between how much other esports players are playing and how much Valorant players are playing.

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number1_cned_hater

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bro not even 12 anymore😭 without group stages its even worse

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geospliced

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I mean, it's pretty visible in some teams. Look at what happened to EDG towards the end of the off season.

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kaninv

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China has an insane system compared to the rest of the regions. they played 54 matches through the year. it's not comparable to the franchised system, which they were not a part of until this year

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geospliced

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Thank you for correcting me. I forgot to take that into account when making my comment. I'll try my best to not make this mistake again. 😀

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MneMaloMaloMaloTebya

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cs players been doing this for yearsss and they dont talk about burnout nearly as much as val players do lmao this game promotes softness

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Breloof

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I mean CS also has less complexity in terms of theory crafting, which for a lot of pros is a bit part of their daily routine. Like Boaster works 60-80 hours a week, scrimming, vod reviewing, making lineups, etc. I have done 60 hour weeks for uni and tbh more than two weeks in a row of that workload I'd kill myself.

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FaZe Up!

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Dokka

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The players are gonna be bored and anxious to play the whole season

If the fans already thought waiting for the off season was long enough. Imagine having an entire year where your fav team could only play like 8 times. Once a month basically

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kaninv

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let's say you're from spain and you love KOI
you watch them at LOCK//IN get insta eliminated and play one match
you watch the 9 matches in their regular season, 4 matches in a LCQ and then it's just over. maybe you can peek at their crossfire cup? oh no they lost 1 match and now their year is over.
heartbreaking.

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Dokka

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It also doesn’t give teams the ability to develop. For KC, super young, cracked but lack experience. Where are they gonna get it if there are 8-9 matches 😭

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kaninv

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factual
oopsie you lost 5 matches out of 9? your season is virtually over
nice try squad! your org is irrelevant for the year!

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geospliced

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I don't know if it's logistically possible, but how about a smaller tournament with the same idea as Champions but with the lower placed teams?

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kaninv

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regional leagues should be like the old china system with 2-3 seasons/rounds to qualify for tournamens but each season you can go to the big tournaments if you're at the top
this would mean teams have like 3 season to improve rather than just one where if you lose like 5 matches it's over
just have like (region) spring, (masters 1), summer, (masters 2), fall (champs)
winter offseason

for example
VCT Americas Spring (top 4 to Masters 1)
VCT Americas Summer (top 3 to Masters 2, top Americas team from Masters 1 auto quali)
VCT Americas Fall (top 2 to Champs, top Americas team from Masters 1 and masters 2 auto quali)
teams if they want can grind off-season tournaments during the winter offseason. would also align with most contracts expiring

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geospliced

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I don't follow LPL, but if that's what they're doing over there I think it'd be a fantastic idea to implement. You're really cooking. 👍

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kaninv

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they had act 1, act 2 and then a chinese champions qualifier
it was a bit too bunched up for me but at least they had multiple seasons for teams to show they are improving / doing better and more matches. it's how we got billibilli in a tournament, who ended up doing well (being NRG twice RIP)

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Yup!

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geospliced

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We're already getting more games than last season, so I'm not exactly complaining. However, I do see your point here and I somewhat agree with it.

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cocoluna

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Bring in more TOs stop being picky RIOT ESL and BLAST both do great at CS plz let them in

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kaninv

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this could easily work too. I feel Riot sees doing this many tournaments as a "Logistical Nightmare" but truly it would be easier if they weren't hosting, planning and paying for every single one