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strict arbitrary fixed roles in val are dumb

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#1
moonemi

“chamber is a duelist! bc he can frag out” “no, he’s a senti bc he locks down sites while holding angles with his gun! “

it can be mixed ya know. a hybrid.

like omen is a controller/duelist with his agressive kit .
or viper is a controller/sentinel bc she can stop pushes

chamber is senti/duelist, now stop arguing ya dummies

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cboomer
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omen is not a duelist 😭 nobody plays him like that except for ange1 because he has bait duelists like retardiis and he makes cned bait

There are agent roles, and in game roles, viper is still a controller but in game plays a lurk or anchor, she’s not both

Chamber is a sentinel but plays as a pivot mostly. Jett can be a refresher or an entry in game but is still a duelist he’s not a duelist or any other role, he’s a sentinel

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moonemi
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omen has such an aggressive kit. and this is coming from an omen main. i entry with him and his blind and tp when my duelist is off doing god knows fuck what.

point is, his kit is is more duelist oriented then say viper or brim.

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cboomer
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Still not a duelist, just because you can tp in to smokes doesn’t mean you entried or are a duelist to entry properly you need to take space and clear it. Actual duelists have kits that help with taking duels omen just moves faster than brim and viper.

Your evidence being an omen main in silver doesn’t mean he’s a duelist
Chamber isn’t a duelist either
And viper isn’t a sentinel because all her abilities are literally smokes LFMAO that’s it smokes and a molly does not make a sentinel

#11
moonemi
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viper is definitely played like a senti on defense. her smokes and mollies stops pushes so well and teams play her like a senti. she has such stalling power. she certainly isn’t just smokes

#13
cboomer
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So every smoke is a sentinel LMFAOO there’s a reason teams wouldn’t run viper without another controller or sentinel she doesn’t cover as much as kj or cypher it’s just not a sentinel lol

#7
noxx
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jawgemo plays it mostly like a duelist and so does mistic, i think op is saying that there doesnt need to be set role for every agent, like for instance jett is an aggresive duelist yes but she can play an anchor role during defense and in the same way, while chamber is a sentinel he can pretty easily make first contact and tp out which makes him an aggressive duelist type agent (THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THOSE AGENTS ARE HYBRID IT JUST MEANS THEY CAN BE FLEXED INTO SOME OTHER ROLES THAT DONT FIT THEIR TAGLINS)

#10
cboomer
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any agent can do things with support. It doesn’t make it a duelist I’ve seen Victor entry on killjoy with 5 optic players alive it literally doesn’t mean shit

Using TP into an omen smoke is not aggressive at all because those players usually do it during entries and don’t clear anything or take duels because they’d lose

#12
moonemi
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you get it!!!

#3
KanyeAsada
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need my dick sucked

#4
nutab1e
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"so we're in copper"

#5
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer
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Chamber is NOT a duelist not even a hybrid one

Silvers incoming to prove me wrong

#9
moonemi
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agree. his kit locks down sites super well like a senti which he is. people just love calling him a duelist bc of fragging ability. he can’t really entry for shit. he can hold and get picks on attack though.

#14
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer
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He doesnt have any type of form of entrying. Every util of his is designed to stall

Trip? Obvious
TP? Reposition --> Hold a certain angle longer from multiple positions --> Stall
Op? Has a slow field after a kill --> Stall

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