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Meteor_stan

Prime Gambit vs Prime Optic vs Prime Loud vs Prime Fnatic
who would win ?

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gambit and its not even close

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Prime LOUD clears the board we are talking Sacy and Pancada not TuyZ (LUL) and cauanzin (sacy better). And prime OpTic includes unnerfed chamber so they would beat Gambit who didn’t have chamber. This whole argument is kinda dumb due to separate metas and agent nerfs.

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sacy and pAncada forgot how to shoot back bruv

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Why are you talking about now when he just said “prime”? Are you even on the same page

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true still prime GMB clears

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bigboy

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if all these teams were put into a tournament into todays meta and agents, gambit would still dominate. thats my take

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Awesome take too bad that has nothing to do with what “Prime” means regarding a team

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bigboy

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prime in this context would mean the orgs at the peak of their dominance. gambit was most dominant with deffo, sheydos, nats, redgar, and chronicle. what im saying is that this team would smack around any other team listed here regardless of time or meta if given the time to adjust and acclimate

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Nah you gambit fanboys are delusional. On one hand you claim the game wasn’t as developed back then and on the other you act like gambit was the best team ever. LOUD and FNATIC are definitely better than a team that lost in their prime to Acend

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not a gambit fanboy
never claimed the game wasn't developed back then
in terms of pure dominance in their prime sen was the best team ever (but they would get rolled over by any of the teams listed in the question)
everyone knows acend's entire tourney run was a fluke

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This is a horrible take redgar does not call well in this meta his whole gameplan in liquid is to take duels and hope nats and sayf get man advantage. One of the most puggy teams in vct

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bigboy

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cant do anything with that fraud soulcas on that team cope

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Cresp

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Im being real bro ur coping that an igl cant call because of one player.

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bigboy

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this conversation is irrelevant anyways. Team Liquid is completely different from prime gambit when they had a cracked line up and a well oiled system managed by engh and redgar

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Cresp

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Gambit could not compete in chamber meta checkmate atheist

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Gambit for sure.

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Prime Sen will run em over

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Cresp

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Loud or optic. Gambit was not as good as these teams and people who think they are have nostalgia bias or are coping. Fnatic unproven in an actual tournament format with a stable meta and teams ( they always go undefeated in regular season so dont give me shit) . The reason why gambit wasnt as good, because Nats was already having trouble with anti-strat and the meta was very individual focused there was literally nothing going on in util combos when the only one was viper shock.

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Its kinda impossible to compare the prime versions of these teams because they existed in their prime in different metas

Prime Gambit would probably slam Loud and Optic if they were playing the 2021 version of the game
Prime Loud/Optic would probably slam Gambit if they played in the 2022 version of the game

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JSCRWNCLW

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Prime GMB > Prime FNATIC > Prime LOUD = Prime OPTIC

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prime loud runs a close series against prime fnatic if the game takes place in current meta

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Meteor_stan

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if sacy and pancada played in the grand final against fnatic they probably would have won the series

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h786

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Definitely Gambit, nats and chronicle were in their prime, redgar was the best IGL in the world at that point, d3ffo was pulling his weight, sheydos was cold as always.

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Newest team will always win

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brobeans

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obviously they're talking about relatively. prime Sen was the most dominate

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Sprouts

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Prime LOUD. At their prime the only team that could consistently take a map off of them was OPTIC. People overrate how dominant prime GMB was, plus they played when players like Zombs and Kiles were on world class teams.