Expectations for LOUD & Fnatic?

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ColdWKey

If either one or both don’t make it it to grand finals of Masters and Champions would that be considered a failure (given the player quality)? Or is top 4 for example good enough for LOUD and FNC?

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Cresp

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It is not failure it is steps to success - Giannis

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Mortadelo

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That completely depends on who knocks you down, how, and how far they reach after imo

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ColdWKey

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True but the way I think

if LOUD vs NRG and FNC vs NaVi are close games and the favourites don’t win it convincingly or the 'underdog' beats the favourite then I believe we'll see a grand final with different teams but if the games are not close then is it really far fetched to assume that there are no teams who can challenge FNC and LOUD? And that the expectations for both of them would be high and anything but the grand finals would be a failure (Regardless of losing to the eventual grand finalist)?

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Ic4rusYam2

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Regardless of being a Loud or Fnatic fan, don't you guys think it's strange to have these 2 facing each other in the final again? Like, don't you see 2 random teams facing each other in the final? Something like DRX vs FUT or something like that?

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Cresp

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I think the only repeated final we’ve ever gotten is loud vs optic. And imo they were not the 2 biggest favorites. They were teams you could expect to win, but people thought fpx and optic/prx would get to the finals. The 2 favorites normally never get to the finals together. People thought Loud was washed since getting grouped in Copenhagen.

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Ic4rusYam2

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I think there was something more "mystical". FNS said in a post champions video that if they lost, it had to be for Loud. And as a form of script, if Loud was going to win the Champions, it had to be in revenge against OPTC

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ColdWKey

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I'd 100% prefer a grand finals with different teams but It's hard for me to imagine a scenario where LOUD or FNC or both aren’t in the grand finals

And take into consideration for that to happen FNC and LOUD would have to lose 2 times since it’s most likely gonna be double elim if it was single elim then I could 100% see a different grand finals happening but with double elim it really reduces the chances imo

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cryyBAE

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Depends, for FNC is a failure for sure, because they're the most overrated team in the world and lock-in champions. But if LOUD lose to DRX it's normal, i think.

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nice analogy