thought the FUT and BBL losses made them shit.
they are pretty good like everyone including me thought at start of VCT EMEA
they are solid if they won a single pistol on haven they probably take it to third map
They have 2nd place curse from losing to FUT in VCL last year, so not they can't beat a team with a Turkish player.
Truly they also kind of got rolled by FUT and BBL. Truly scared of Turks