Best EU smokes players of all time

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GooberBoy

Aren't even controller players
Shao, Nats, Chronicle are the only ones who would be elite on that role. Why does EU have no good controllers? Boaster and I guess Avova are the best OAT, but that isn't saying that much seeing as neither are even close to Mako, Marved, Pancada, etc who are all better.

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Asuna_Yuuki

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In EMEA the IGLS are usually controllers which makes it harder for them to frag

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GooberBoy

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That's the only reason I can come up with, especially since it's similar in NA with sentinels. But even Dapr has looked far ahead of what Avova is on controller characters. You'd think a team with redgar or bonecold playing sova would find a crazy smokes player but it hasn't happened yet

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Nah bro no way DAPR has looked better than Avova

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GooberBoy

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Historically I mean, not saying this second. Dapr's peak and long term success was better than Avova

#11

blazennn

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They still don’t make the same impact or close to it. There is a large gap in controller players for EMEA I noticed the same.

#4

eeeeeeeee

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Davih and Kamisseq look promising from T2

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soraol

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boaster

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WinterZ

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unfortunately it is true, EU has no top tier controllers atm :(

I agree with what #4 is saying tho, there are some gems in Tier 2

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donut2612

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most controller players are igls in emea

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Domination

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EU smokers are mostly igls unlike Pacific and Americas where igls are mostly sentinels or initiators
That's why EU have insane initiators like Leo and Shao

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Typer

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Stax?

#13

Domination

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Actually not really comparable to Shao and Leo especially after he took over as igl, his performance before was better

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derptz

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Another thread of nAts being controller🤣
Again, he's not controller! He's a sentinel!!!

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GooberBoy

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that is the entire point of the post did u even read the first sentence?

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DrudaL

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Bro read