Best non-franchised NA teams?

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kudos

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The Guard
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The Guard should -tex +yay and they will definitely be #1 well IMO and is tex good enough to join C9?

And I'm just curious who do you guys think is better between clear and OXY?

TSM needs Subroza and WARDELL back but they did just defeat The Guard so IDK.

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oxy and its not close

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Bro try to sneak in DSG like we wouldn't notice. They're NA T1 level at best

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no way youre asking for subroza and wardell with nature and corey carrying the team dude.

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oxy, clear has really nice pop off moments but oxy has that + discipline where as I see clear making fundamental mistakes
oxy is new but he looks pretty well experienced prob shahz buff

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G2 fans try not to credit OXY’s talent to Shahzam instead of Trick challenge (impossible)

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sheahhhh

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https://www.vlr.gg/156580/dark-ratio-vs-shopify-rebellion-boomtv-valorant-select-gf
oxy with trick W setting him up

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winae29

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what are you waffling about

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dsg over shopify?? could be

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kudos

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Didn't they just lose to Oxygen and FaZe? The teams I listed all have winning records so far this year while Shopify is sitting at 1-2

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rishu004

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yaa if u go by wins this split, sure dsg looks better than shopify. but in overall skill ceiling of the team, i feel shopify is a bit ahead. i havent seen enough of dsg yet to change my mind.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cZJeIsoiaw

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bro snuck in DSG

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SAMPV6

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OXY>>

Wardell and subroza are good streamers but that's about it.

Tex is good enough to join C9, but IDK about changing him for Yay. There's not much experience in TGRD to make good use of Yay, so I feel like he'd be wasted there again.

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it’s not lack of experience this team has been together far longer than most teams and most players on the team are regarded as some of the best in NA.
I don’t see him fitting into the young core they have though, though I feel Valyn could utilize Yay this team has always been at its best when all players are working off each other which would change when playing off one of the best players in Valorant.

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SAMPV6

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well yeah, I was speaking more in the sense of "years of experience" like in the case for FNS, Shahz, dapr, Vanity, Steel, etc...

TGRD are not a bad team at all, but I don't think Yay would be a good fit

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OXY might just be the best duelist in Challengers, let alone be better than clear.

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I feel like M80 are a top 3 team in all of NA right now.

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soraol

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M80

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why is dsg in there lmfao

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I am rooting for DSG all the way but honestly don't feel like they are at that level yet, they'll get there by the end of VCL tho (COPIUM)

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SR is better than DSG