Experience is the only reason Turkish teams drown, otherwise no team can beat giants and defeat liquide 13-1, or force fpx to beat guild 13-0.Except for smb, when all turkish teams take the lead with a difference in score, they become complacent and start to overpeek, but smb does not do this because it consists of experienced names. I think the TR scene will develop in a few years and we will not see 13-0s.