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BlazingSlayr7

note: I rated IGLs pretty highly here as I prioritized how valuable they would be to a team. Basically who I would draft if I were to make a team. Current form also quite matters so not including Tenz, Alfa, Cned, etc who have high potential but haven't shown it recently.

1 aspas - Champions MVP
2 derke - The most cracked LANimal
3 suygetsu - Chyper/KJ Meta
4 yay - 2022 Best Player
5 nats - Chyper/KJ Meta
6 chronicle - 2021 Best Player, now in a good team
7 pancada - Best smokes
8 mako - Best smokes pt 2
9 shao - Clutch King, High IQ fragger, Good Util
10 bang - 2nd Best smokes
11 leo - Best Player that only once made LAN.
12 kingg - Cracked IGL + Fragger. 2nd Best Rating in Champions as IGL
13 saadhak - Top 3 IGL w/ cracked aim
14 fns - Top 3 IGL
15 boaster - Top 3 IGL
16 cryo - Cracked aimer, will be solid in 100T as jett
17 sacy - High IQ player, 2nd caller. One of the best in Util Usage
18 stax - Best Util Usage + IGL
19 ardiis - cracked aimer, just not that sure its a 1-1 replacement for yay in NRG
20 redgar - Was Top 3 IGL, now has a good team again. (ik this one is a pretty hot take)

EDIT: I rate team performance and individual performance differently. Sometimes the team just does shit even though maybe all of them are performing well. Teamwork matters a lot in this game.

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RATREPELLENT

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not reading that lil bro

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nutab1e

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CHEESE_EATING_RAT

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de1mos

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derke over el diablo? kekw dnt make me laugh

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patuj

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Derke's Jett was on same level as Yay + his Raze is really good

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de1mos

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Yayster won the Masters on 2022 + World Champion Finalist, derke...

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reycac

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won masters without fpx,not legitimate in my books

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de1mos

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in yours, but Yay is the one who won it

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Okoretro

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Yay is a jett 1 trick. He can't play it on every map...

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de1mos

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1 Trick better than Cned, TenZ, Derk, Cryo ardiis

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I_HATE_MCE

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Derke = most overrated player in the world. His career peak was getting clapped by ratzam 💀 how embarrassing

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luckypleb

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not reading all that but probably L list

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hanafuuji

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istg people just forget that jinggg exists when making these lists

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Adi69LassiSeller

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Jingg prolly clears everyone in that list except Aspas.

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eeeeeeeee

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suygetsu too high, shao is better

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GAGAZ

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solid rank for 0 star user

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Sprouts

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everything is fine except Boaster, he’s definitely not a top 3 IGL imo

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kzeriar

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yup good in strats but overheats too much, not that good in midrounding

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PigExe

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no

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pitchfork

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this might be unpopular opinion but nats being rated so high is kinda unfair no? esp when u said current form quite matter. no hate to nats he's my fav emea player but idk this doesn't feels right to other players who putting up more number last year.

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I_HATE_MCE

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EU propaganda. They call every M3C and Acend player the best in the world even though they haven’t done shit since 2021 😹

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xiphon

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honestly asuna>=cryo on overall impact on a team if not so many people underrate asuna he is a great entry and slowly becoming an amazing initiator also stax > boaster mid list

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gamr

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Asuna is the most overrated mf in the world, and he won’t even be playing raze probably unless 100T wants to play double duelist. He can flex onto KAY/O and Skye well but his other flex agents (like Fade for example) look mid at best.

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xiphon

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bro what💀 a flex player plays 3 agents usually being raze, kayo and another, asuna does not need to play fade. asuna hasnt had as big of an impact on the new 100T bc he has taken a step back as a fragger with cryo and derrek joining but he kept this team afloat he is undoubtedly top 25 players in NA atleast (i think all of americas but im in class so not thinking about it too much.)

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gamr

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No one NEEDS to play anything. Asuna plays Fade because his team wants him to.

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andrewdamf

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dont ever make a list again

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EnzoLS12

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exactly, where is mwzera?

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Adi69LassiSeller

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No SkRossi no upvotes

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1mBor3d

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bro typed best player too many times

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gamr

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Why the fuck do people keep calling aspas the champions MVP? It was clearly pANcada or Less, definitely not aspas

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not_smart_user

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less is my fav player from the loud squad

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xiphon

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pancada>
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alitmanus

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he mvped in two series
pancada just in one

pancada didnt even have a higher ACS than Aspas

how the fuck is pancada the MVP
lmao

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gamr

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Less is def MVP but pancada had the best rating on LOUD at champs

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alitmanus

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yeah because he's the controller, he dies last

rate counts with how much you survive

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lorenzopajaroFC

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Pancada mvped in two series just like aspas

And that’s going by ACS, that just counts how much damage you do so it’s a stat pretty much designed for favoring duelists. Do tell me how rating is a worse metric than ACS

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alitmanus

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no pancada mvped in just one series
https://i.imgur.com/f6wdyve.png
u don't need to be a duelist to do damage
but u need to be a controller to survive more

theres lots of controllers with high ACS, but no duelist with low FD

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lorenzopajaroFC

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Bro who the fuck cares about match mvp, we’re discussing just Loud here so you should be looking at the team MVP

+acs counts mainly the damage you get, yeah it adds up some bonuses for multifrags and all but if you go check it out, the player’s ACS runs hand in hand with his ADS everytime

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alitmanus

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tá bom burrão

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lorenzopajaroFC

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Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk olha o nível desse cara véi

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Aristia

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No Heat not valid 🐏

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not_smart_user

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JINGGG?????? NO JINGGG = TRASH LIST JUST THROW IT OUT IN THE TRASHCAN

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EnzoLS12

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Boaster above cryo is insane, bro

Delete it while you can

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vollizie

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-cryo and ardiis are way too low. In no world can you justify them below the IGLs on this list.
-I don't normally put IGLs in my list because we can never truly gauge their impact when it comes to calling, along with the fact that their fragging is rather poor. Saadhak and kingg maybe can stay, as their fragging is solid, but FNS, redgar, and Boaster gotta go.
-You said current form matters a lot, so why are Chronicle and nAts so high? They have 0 international games last year. Also Alfa has definitely proven himself internationally, so he should be on here.
-this list is missing forsaken, Jingg, ScreaM and maybe zekken and Asuna

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BlazingSlayr7

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I am an alfa believer, I do believe he has the potential to break top 10 with his online form. I just dont like what Ive seen on LANs. Chroinicle and nats were still S-Tier players during GMB's downfall. I still think they are in great form even though their team was ass. I dont rate aimers as highly thus the lack of those 5 players you mentioned, but they were in my top 30 (forsaken top 35). And im a PRX fan.

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Domination

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STOP MAKING LISTS, ALL ARE BIASED, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN ACCURATELY RANK THE PLAYERS SKILLS🗿

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no way, surely blud knows what he's talking about with Derke in 2 (after the worst year of his career by far), Boaster as top 3 IGL (same issue as derke) and 2 m3c players in top 10 who havent been relevant for as long as Fnatic hasn't won anything of note 💀💀💀💀💀

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BlazingSlayr7

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okay boaster top 3 IGL was a bit wild i forgot Ange1. still top 5 tho. and derke was just believing he would bounce back w new FNC. its not he never dipped in form, he has a couple times yet still proved haters wrong.

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lorenzopajaroFC

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Actually valid list, although I disagree with some of it you gave valid points

Idk why people are always so pressed anytime someone gives their opinion

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Supervegito007

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Preety good list
But jingg not in top 20 is not valid

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Traderslife

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Scream? lol

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Stop reading at derke

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shey222

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stopped reading at derke

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Supervegito007

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Bro so many people hating on derke but he is the most Consistent Player Since 2021
Very good at chamber Jett and raze not and one tr1ck lmfao

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de1mos

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Derke has not even been in a final since 2021 and he is the most consistent player? KEKW

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do you even know what consistent means?

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de1mos

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The one who keep going at the same level as Yay, derke idk...

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n1cf

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These lists have been too much biased lately

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derptz

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SkRossi clears the lists

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stop reading at Derke LMAO

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Qwertyy

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yay at 4 is hilarious

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BlazingSlayr7

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Maybe bc im an IGL myself i can kind of see which ones are better at calling and prep, and i do generally value pure aimers less. But ppl like my top aspas, derke, yay are just too good not to put at the top. Hence why i put the rest of the aimers near the bottom or not even on the list. btw if yall think im biased i am a PRX fan.. but my Nats pick was deffo biased lol

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PRX fans but no jinggg on the list ???

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BlazingSlayr7

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he was close still in my top 20s but yea. still the most exciting player oat w/ Tenz imo. hope he pops off in Brazil. I think theyre gonna lose to DRX AGAIN, but i have my hopes up against C9.

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replace boaster with Ange1

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BlazingSlayr7

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i just thought Ange1 was too much of a liability as a player, i do agree he is a better IGL/Leader

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Ryuji

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Bro add Jamppi in it , He was one of the best chambers in 2022

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BlazingSlayr7

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he was 29 on my list, tbh most of them are too close to even bother ranking. these lists are never going to be perfect.

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Subreezy

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not perfect but it's one of the most valid lists i've seen

i just think it's not fair to add M3C players when they haven't been in good form for a while

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SamBR

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Nice list
but no matter what
20 - fns

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JCopper

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Ardiis and cryo are too low and there is no way less isnt top 20 in a KJ/Cypher meta

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BlazingSlayr7

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for less, thats actually valid yet i thought he was the worst player on LOUD last season ( not saying hes bad ). the competition for the list was also tough he was still top 20s. I just didnt think he was nearly the impact player ppl think he is.

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Hard disagree with him being the worst in last year's loud (and even if he was all of them have an argument for top 20 imo), aside from his chamber he was really solid and at champs only pancada and aspas were more consistent. With that being said now that i think about it i can actually see him not being there, the talent level is crazy

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BlazingSlayr7

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my first list of who I thought deserved a name drop consisted of 48 PEOPLE! It was hard just shaving it down bit by bit until it reached 20...

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JCopper

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Yeah its tough narrowing it to only 20 and nobody is gonna agree 100% with someone else's list

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Ullyr

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a list withoout Jingg+forsaken is crazy FR

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bro you gotta learn how to spell cypher

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blizzard

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list invalid with derke at #2

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boaster top 500 in the tournament

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mister blazing put stax on 18 bruh, hes literally fragging while being igl. also mister blazing said current peformance matter but put nats so highly while we knew his performance not really that great these days. seems more like a bias in ajay opinion

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stax is validd wymm? yea nats is a bit biased, but dont you think hes gonna pop off this meta? he still played extremely well in a declining GMB side. i deffo still think he is in form, and now its gonna be old nats again.

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didnt read , no forsaken or jingg 😂😂

IS THIS TOP 20 LIST VALID FOR VCT LOCKIN ??

STOP MAKING LISTS, ALL ARE BIASED, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN ACCURATELY RANK THE PLAYERS SKILLS🗿