EU META vs NA META

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henzz

I really don't like the EU meta, only when they play Breach. When they play Sage instead of breach and only 1 duelist, they literaly have no flashbangs, that sucks for entry fragging and for getting kills while defending a site, also they lose the ability to clear corners and to retake a site more easily.

I believe when EU faces the NA and BR teams they will get destroyed by the Flashbangs, the agression, and the retake capability the flashes bring.

Coming from CS, I know that flashbangs are a big part in strategies, there's no way a no flashbang meta is a good one. That will be tested in may at the first international event. Valorant Masters.

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br teams will do nothing

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will see

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your almighty mwzera will be crushed by our na teams

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yea, you tell em beb0p

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Cringe 0/8

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Go play CS without flashes and watch what happens. That's what those EU nobrainers are doing. They will get destroyed.

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Why you are crying already? What can you prove by talking right before the teams will face each other soon?

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I'm not crying. I just don't see the EU scene as strong as people think. It's the region where everybody still plays CS, with the less amount of players, and the lowest level of the game. I really don't think EU is strong at all.

100T is trying to copy EU meta, but is this meta really any good? I don't think so. That's just a questioning. Think about it.

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EU is still is the biggest playerbase in the game. Riot said so when they adjusted the RR cap for each region.

200RR for BR
300RR for NA
400RR for EU

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henzz

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But why those indicate the playerbase? The numbers of valorant in EU streams are trash, also you guys added with CIS and turkey only got 2 spots for masters.

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henzz

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Of course, people are finding it a bit unfair. But Riot knows why they only gave EU+CIS+TURKEY 2 spots, they must have their reasons.

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hekzy

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Only heretics don't run breach but they still clear out corners with utility. (And paranoia)

Also if you consider phoenix or reyna flash anything more than a minor annoyance you're deluded.

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henzz

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The comps with breach are good. I just don't think the new Sage meta with no flashbangs and no real firepower is good though. I'm saying that, because 100T is trying to copy EU, but is their playstile the best? I don't feel like it is. I think it's the worst.

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hekzy

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Idk what 100T is doing but they are not playing sage properly. If you want to question the sage setup watch Heretics and try pointing out mistakes.

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henzz

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Think with me, if omen uses his paranoia to defend, or to gain time for his teammates to arrive. How they retake sites without flashbangs? They just literally peak everything and hope their aim is good enough to take advantage of the peaker's adavantage.

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hekzy

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But if you have sage and kj/cypher they will literally never enter a site without playing 2v4 in the afterplant.

As for attack, it's really complicated.

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henzz

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But if you play 2 duelist you will still have kj/cypher in your team...

I mean, only in the masters we will get to see wich meta is actually better. I just don't like the no flashbangs meta that's going on in EU.

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In CS, the only util you have to get onto site is really the flash. In valorant, there’s so much movement util like jett dash, raze satchel. There’s recon util as well. You really can’t compare the two.

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henzz

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You just quoted 2 duelists man. If you don't have flashbangs you gotta use the duelists movements right? So why the fuck sage?

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ideekae

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Sage is quite meta and has strong util to stop/split pushes. Even with sage, ur comp will work as long as u have some movement duelist or flash. Best to have both imo and it’s still possible with sage. Also gotta have a recon agent like sova to help the duelist entry.

Anyways I still don’t see ur problem with sage

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henzz

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I don't have a problem with Sage. I have a problem with having no flashbangs. They pick sage instead of an agent who can actually blind people.

1 - Sova
2 - Jett/Raze
3 - Sage
4 - Breach
5 - Omen/brim

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1 - Skye
2- Jett/Rze
3 - Sage
4 - Cypher/killjoy
5 - Omen/brim

or

1 - Sova
2-Jett/raze
3 - Phoenix/reyna
4 - Cypher/killjoy
5 - Omen/brim

or

1 - Sova
2 - Jett/raze
3 - Breach
4 - Cypher/killjoy
5 - Omen/brim

or

1 - Sova
2 - Jett/Raze
3 - Sage
4 - phoenix/reyna
5 - Omen/brim

Those are the only comps possible imo. Yes. Because of flashbangs. I think they are extremely important.

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I personally think the better comps have flashes, but some teams might be more comfortable playing something like raze+jett w/o flash, and it seems pretty doable, especially if you keep ur jett alive. A lot of EU teams have learned to play anti flash around breach really well, so that’s something to take into consideration.

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henzz

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Meaning, for me the only way to play Sage + another sentinel is with Skye instead of Sova.

#23

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Bro, The sage's ult is probably the best, that ult have so much impact.

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wait until champions

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the problem is, when half of the teams are playing breach and half of them aren't and no breach is working, why wouldn't they use that comp? you act like no team is using breach. EU has the most diverse meta and you know it. Why even make a post like this?