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Old Sen vs New Sen

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Revan

There has been an ongoing fight since TenZ joined that Sen would have had the same result without TenZ on the team. This is mostly between TenZ fans and Sen fans or TenZ haters idk. And who knows, maybe Sen would be doing as well, however stats speak differently. In the last 35 games with TenZ, Sen lost 3 times whilst in the previous 35 games with Sinaatra, they lost 9 times. People also say that Sinaatra and Shahzam would have better individual performances without TenZ however TenZ has had a better performance compared to Shahzam when he played Jett mostly and Sinaatra when he played on the team. I'm not hating on players but it's kinda obvious Sen is a better team now and thats why they are winning.

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gweees
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They are more dominant but Sen with Sinatraa would have been dominant as well

#5
zacouigejbibio
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We can't know that, last time sinatra played they got 3-0 against envy. But for sure they would be in the top3

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gweees
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ok and? Sen lost to BBG with TenZ people lose sometimes

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venkymax
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true

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Revan
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That's true however like I stated above Sen lost 3 times with TenZ and 9 with Sinaatra. To put it into perspective, 100t lost 10 over the last 35 games. I'm not saying Sen would be bad but it's obvious they're doing better

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gweees
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Thats literally what I said

#15
ry_02
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and it's not like the other four players are the exact same players as they were months ago, it's hard to compare

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hellaeleganceyeah
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the core is so good they would probably be at the top even without tenz. but tenz pushes sentinels potential to new highs thats for sure.

#4
notAGN
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lets say sen might have have won at iceland with sinatraa but would've dropped maps. That's the difference

#7
SSSSS
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idk but u cant rly compare considering all the meta changes and other stuff such as astra and the viper buffs which came out basically right after sinatraa got suspended

#8
ChowChow
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Ummmm,
Anything is good, just accept the situation now.
Soon sinatraa ban will be lifted on september (cmiiw), go talk about it again after what SEN do to sinatraa.
Will he back to team (6 team party) or SEN will place him on content creator.
This is kind hot topic since sinatraa himself is a very2 good player, and speculation will only lead to delusions.

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gweees
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Shahz and Sinatraa have said that they don't want to do a 6 man roster so he'll probably go to a different team if he competes again

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BuffX4
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shahz even said something about him being a good teammate during his time on the team, if that isn't saying bye then idk what is

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ChowChow
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Ah I see, I miss some news.
Then that is big. I guess he will stay put first not competing in pro scene in case karen strike again.

#14
WitLitning
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I'm worried that TSM will continue to trial Sova players and then throw them all away when Sinatraa is unbanned. Again, I won't throw my personal convictions on other ppl here, but I'd shy away from the drama that would cause for TSM.

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