They’re more likely to get grouped than loud.
Not much logic, mostly feelings. Loud seemed super uncomfortable last tournament for one match, and I doubt they’ll do that again. Mainly because they’ve had a lot of time to boot camp in EU and figure out how they wanna play the current meta. On the other hand, optic’s comps have been increasingly figured out over the past few tournaments and unless they pull out something completely new that works amazingly, I don’t think they’ll be as strong in this meta. Plus historically they’ve had super slow starts to tournaments, and I don’t think you can afford to do that at champs where the team quality is a lot higher. All in all: I bet optic will be weaker in groups than loud, but if they make it to playoffs, they might pop off.