What does Shroud even mean

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Bat_Chest

“I wonder if it’s hard because everyone is so good, and everyone is so good because the game is arguably easier,” he added. “Maybe that’s why [it’s harder]. It keeps the competition high.”

so he said valorant is hard because the game is easier thus making the game hard, what even is that logic lol

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cope with the fact cs frog

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Bat_Chest

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"the game" he was saying is valorant

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cope

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you should read the article lol

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Matrix13e

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cope KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

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COPIUM he didnt say its valorant

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cope more

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boltz

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why waste time on reading mid

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yaiima0

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The game is hard to him

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Bat_Chest

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yea thats what he meant, since everyone competes at the same low skill ceiling its harder

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cope

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Bat_Chest

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"no im not gonna check out what he actually says but i will use my alts to downfrag and upfrag the comments in under a minute"

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cope

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It makes him hard

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everyone is so good because the game is easy

he is saying there is a slow skill ceiling, so everyone is good.

Maybe that’s why it keeps the competition high.

He means, everyone can beat everyone(depends on the day) due to that reason above, (the competition is high because everyone is good)

So it’s hard to get good, AND stay good at this game since the skill ceiling is low.

Not my words, it’s his. I’m only inferring from what he’s saying

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kapteN

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This, and what he says makes total sense.

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Bat_Chest

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yea cuz i wasnt expecting shroud to say sth like this game has low skill ceiling, good to know

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yeah, kinda true but
low skill ceiling is true if we only talking about "aiming", because it's harder to aim in CS than Valorant.

but with the development of valorant, I'm sure the "low skill ceiling" will disappear, because valorant is basically a mix of MOBA genre & FPS

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HaSanity

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Personally I think valorant and CS are completely incomparable because of the reason you stated. They are now two very different games at this point in time.

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ItsMeDio

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yeah, but at early valorant, it's quite comparable, but now we can say it's very different

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sheahhhh

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this is so easy to understand, u are sub iq if it takes u more than 20 secs to comprehend this

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Bat_Chest

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idk just not sure if im getting the "game is hard because its easier" part right

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sheahhhh

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the game is easier, so there are more people who are very good at the game making it harder when there is more competition at the highest skill cap

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Engreloy

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the game is hard because everyone is playing good simple as that

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“I wonder if it’s hard because everyone is so good, and everyone is so good because the game is arguably easier,” he added. “Maybe that’s why [it’s harder]. It keeps the competition high.”

in CS, aim is harder because of the spray pattern, and that's makes new players hard to keep up with the experience & the older one. Different to Valorant, the aim is not based on spray patterm, but with burst/tap. that's make quote "everyone is good", because it's technically easier to burst/tap instead of "spray" like in CS. i think easier to aim is why valorant "easy" and noob friendly

Therefore, valorant takes different route to become harder by "utility usage" which is very different approach compares to CS
i'm sure, in 5 or 6 years, definitely there will be someone who really masters the utility usage in valorant and we won't say valorant is easy (plus the meta is constantly changing)

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yungbasel

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Not just spray pattern. Movement physics and models too.

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ItsMeDio

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oh, yeah
i forgot

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deluxton

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some things just don't need to be analysed further

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philion

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It's "harder" because there are never any clear favorites in this game, riot never allows the game to stagnate which prevents teams to master a particular strat better than anyone and abuse it for months, astralis inferno B strat for example, no team was able to crack that setup for more than a year, something like that can't happen in valorant cuz the meta changes frequently which makes competing in valo hard cuz you have to adapt quickly

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copium

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CS is all about perfection while val is about who's able to adapt faster

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Valgod

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This is why the sentinels will not win more than 10 rounds in lcq and shroud gonna bottom frag every map

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lmaoo