Is it just me or

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BetaSahara

Did optic lost their form after Iceland? I swear Iceland optic would beat fpx and potentially beat paper Rex on the rematch. And ik everyone else improved along with eu not getting nerfed but still optic played worse than before.

Still better than sentiluls who placed 5-8th in the second round, losing to their second seed and gold 2 right after winning Iceland. Let's see if optic would follow sentiluls and go out in group stage in champs

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hiimnsk

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Maybe other teams improved? When optic won emea was in shambles

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BetaSahara

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I did address it, but the difference between matches that optic won in Iceland and Copenhagen is that in Iceland optic showed that they are literally better(optic vs tgrd) while in Copenhagen they won because they played less shit than the other team(optic vs xset) and the moment they went against a team that actually uses their brain they got absolutely destroyed. Iceland optic would mop the floor with Copenhagen optic for sure.

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hiimnsk

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Its the same optic, everyone has improved its pretty obvious i thought

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This is the most braindead thing i read today.

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alitmanus

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no, they are much stronger

otherwise wouldn't even get out of groups

most countered team by now

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BetaSahara

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I admit the match against loud both teams played well, but it was just a slaughter against Kru: Kru got tilted from it against Guild and none of their players showed up massively. Against xset I'dk what happened but they xset lost their form entirely and decided to play like ranked, and DRX is just DRX: chokers

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ItsMeDio

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no
this is still their best form
Optic won't even in grand final if EMEA team comes full power in iceland

but Optic are solid 3rd or 4th

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zakrin72

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you are acting like teams are not improving every week, just some quicker some slower

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BetaSahara

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I did say teams improved, but optic actually went backwards as they sometimes forgot the basic concepts of pro valorant(they've consistently thrown multiple 5v3s and 3v1s in this tournament already and Iceland optic would not have allowed that to happen at all).

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OkOkay

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It’s cause many people already know how they play

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NG1nS

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not true man, victor was whiffing the easiest shots he was getting aim diffed so hard

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OkOkay

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Victor whiffing was mostly in icebox and even that isn’t enough to reason why they lost.

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NG1nS

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it's a weird one
it's always crashies and victor especially victor these guys really have inconsistent performance they didn't show up in group stage iceland but when they did optic was insane
they keep sleeping then showing up for a match or two then completely sleep and today they were asleep
there's definitely inconsistency and they need to solve it but they're still a very good team

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no_noise_979

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the cope of people saying "optic not performing to their standard"

meanwhile FNATIC DIDNT EVEN PLAY 15% of their full strength yet that gets called "excuses"

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Fnatic has different problem

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NG1nS

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for me both didn't

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Eag1e

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it was the neon comps. They were new and no one knew how to counter them

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no_noise_979

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i honestly think last stage FPX was slightly better than this stage FPX

harder to judge their masters performance compared to online but optic lose to fpx either way

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valulrantefanboy

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Victor played terribly againts FPX, literally like a bot and troll. Just ran foward to die. Crashies was shaky, FNS actually had insane match. Marved was okay. Yay was good as usual

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Kepin

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No. They're still the same optic. I genuinely think other teams like fpx and prx simply getting better.

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snoozna

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Literally what happened with sen too