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Tension between Zombs and Shahzam

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#1
spaldingmatters

It was pretty clear from the watch parties that were going on over last weekend that Zombs was frustrated with Sentinels and was subtly reveling in their failure, and it is has carried over into this week with both Shahzam and Zombs saying stuff about each other in public.

Interesting that Zombs said he was bringing coaching staff and helping with VOD review while Shahzam was busy streaming ranked the entire time lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl1F3HSO4YE

There were a few other instances too that I couldn't find videos of, but yeah looks like things are a little rocky (Rawky?) in the Sentinels camp

EDIT: another clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6o6f3paIdE

#2
Infernando10
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L players

#3
ihsazal
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I don't understand. Why does Shahzam react to everything? And also shit-talking about his former teammates won't do any good to his reputation.

#4
enri
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Shazam be like lazed all the time and then people start to point out, he will talk back shit to them 🤣🤣🤣

#5
JackyTan
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the problem with shahzam he always respond to all this and create more hate toward himself

#6
ShyftNot1
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didn't shahz dm zombs saying that he wasn't the problem and now he's saying that zombs wasn't motivated enough? i don't understand why they are blaming each other when they are at the lowest point in their valorant career. this is the last thing they need. everyone on sentinels should just take a break from social media because, i feel like the hate or criticism they get online is creating animosity and a bitter feeling in the team.

#7
BrazilianBeast
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valorant reality show would be more entertaining than masters/champs imo

#8
TheHardStuckImmortal
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Classic VLR users taking things out of proportion. You should work for The Sun

#9
Giannero
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Shahzam is an L human

#10
spaldingmatters
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TheHardStuckImmortal [#8]

Classic VLR users taking things out of proportion. You should work for The Sun

They are airing out grievances in public. No one is saying they will come to blows but there is clearly some frustration and animosity.

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axnav7
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ihsazal [#3]

I don't understand. Why does Shahzam react to everything? And also shit-talking about his former teammates won't do any good to his reputation.

this is the reason he was never ever in a established CS team for long because he was a bitch to every one and a fucking rat leaking things

#12
andrewdamf
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its funny thinking about how almost everyone on the scene hates shazam but didnt say nothing when he was doing good, maybe now ppl r gonna be more real

#13
Shownu
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zombs doesn't need to do all that others stuff. The main reason he is benched is because of his performance. He should be grinding ranked all day instead of spending time doing other things because he is the worst fragger on the team and it became apparent in VCT matches. Shahzam said it himself that zombs didn't play much and you can tell from zombs point that he wasn't grinding ranked all day as he tried to throw shade because he was bringing in coaches etc... while Shahz was grinding ranked.

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I wouldn't be surprised if it was Zombs who pitched for Rawkus to get hired originally and was also the one who wanted to trial iRemiix bc of his connections with him from OWL. Prob won't happen now but Zombs could be a good analyst or coach for SEN. Doubt that happens now bc the way Zombs sounded Shahz didn't exactly care for his input while on the team.

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GLHF
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ihsazal [#3]

I don't understand. Why does Shahzam react to everything? And also shit-talking about his former teammates won't do any good to his reputation.

That's his problem.. And the reason is him feeling safe on sentinels..
He replies to every critics toward him by the fans even on vlr.gg.. Talk shit about other pros and teams.. And getting away with it..
Usually other pros avoid saying those kind of things.. Because if somehow the fans started hating u.. You will end up.. Being benched or dropped which is mean losing your job.. as a sacrifice to save the org image.. Same thing happened to zombs for example.. But shaz always talk like he own sentinels and doesn't give a fuck aboout other opinions

#16
BirdB0i
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#FUCK BOTH
ALL MY HOMIES HATE BOTH SHAHZ AND ZOMBS

#17
axnav7
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GLHF [#15]

That's his problem.. And the reason is him feeling safe on sentinels..
He replies to every critics toward him by the fans even on vlr.gg.. Talk shit about other pros and teams.. And getting away with it..
Usually other pros avoid saying those kind of things.. Because if somehow the fans started hating u.. You will end up.. Being benched or dropped which is mean losing your job.. as a sacrifice to save the org image.. Same thing happened to zombs for example.. But shaz always talk like he own sentinels and doesn't give a fuck aboout other opinions

i guarantee you his stream number s will go to shit once he retires because of his shitty personality he is just so easy to hate upon his actions and his attitude is the worst i have seen in any player he is like the opposite of pashabiceps the Ogs know who he is

#18
373washoooi
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Sadge for zombs, feels like he got scapegoated.

#19
Zorontom
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Bruh Shahz thinks he has complete job security cause NA has less IGL's

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Ryuzaki
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axnav7 [#11]

this is the reason he was never ever in a established CS team for long because he was a bitch to every one and a fucking rat leaking things

Guy literally signs with IBP as content creator after ruining IBP's roster years back xDDD

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Shownu [#13]

zombs doesn't need to do all that others stuff. The main reason he is benched is because of his performance. He should be grinding ranked all day instead of spending time doing other things because he is the worst fragger on the team and it became apparent in VCT matches. Shahzam said it himself that zombs didn't play much and you can tell from zombs point that he wasn't grinding ranked all day as he tried to throw shade because he was bringing in coaches etc... while Shahz was grinding ranked.

I thought Shahzam fans were saying that ranked are not important when being questioned why he keep playing Jett only in ranked?

#22
ABitDeluded
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Honestly just get Zombs a new team, if he's good enough, it will show then.

#23
GLHF
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Shaz shouldn't reply to what zombs said in the first place.. And shouldn't get serious about it.. But that's who is.. Reply to every criticism toward him claiming that everyone else is wrong... And take everything personally and seriously..
I guess it started when zombs said that he have ideas that can fix sen problems.. And shaz replied that "he wonder why he didn't give this input before then while he still on the team"
Imo that's an agressive way to reply to ur former teammate.. And he may in fact have some good ideas to fix sen problems.. Maybe he didn't get the chance to say those ideas.. Or maybe he said them and no one listened to him..
I don't think that zombs was benched because of not being motivated enough.. It's obviously he was being benched after the amount of hate he was receiving constantly for his low stats..
Even pros including subroza, xeppa and also kanpeki.. Said that zombs was doing his job pretty well.. And he said that even shazam said this to him..
So that statement from shazam.. Seems more personaly.. And even if It's true.. You don't say things like that about your former teammate

#24
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ABitDeluded [#21]

I thought Shahzam fans were saying that ranked are not important when being questioned why he keep playing Jett only in ranked?

Not a Shahzam fan.

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ABitDeluded
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GLHF [#23]

Shaz shouldn't reply to what zombs said in the first place.. And shouldn't get serious about it.. But that's who is.. Reply to every criticism toward him claiming that everyone else is wrong... And take everything personally and seriously..
I guess it started when zombs said that he have ideas that can fix sen problems.. And shaz replied that "he wonder why he didn't give this input before then while he still on the team"
Imo that's an agressive way to reply to ur former teammate.. And he may in fact have some good ideas to fix sen problems.. Maybe he didn't get the chance to say those ideas.. Or maybe he said them and no one listened to him..
I don't think that zombs was benched because of not being motivated enough.. It's obviously he was being benched after the amount of hate he was receiving constantly for his low stats..
Even pros including subroza, xeppa and also kanpeki.. Said that zombs was doing his job pretty well.. And he said that even shazam said this to him..
So that statement from shazam.. Seems more personaly.. And even if It's true.. You don't say things like that about your former teammate

Hard agree. Zombs acted like a kid true, but honestly Shahz could and should've handled it better.

#26
MoonshineRB
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rat vs rat

#27
alexxx
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Zombs is king

#28
busterD
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GLHF [#23]

Shaz shouldn't reply to what zombs said in the first place.. And shouldn't get serious about it.. But that's who is.. Reply to every criticism toward him claiming that everyone else is wrong... And take everything personally and seriously..
I guess it started when zombs said that he have ideas that can fix sen problems.. And shaz replied that "he wonder why he didn't give this input before then while he still on the team"
Imo that's an agressive way to reply to ur former teammate.. And he may in fact have some good ideas to fix sen problems.. Maybe he didn't get the chance to say those ideas.. Or maybe he said them and no one listened to him..
I don't think that zombs was benched because of not being motivated enough.. It's obviously he was being benched after the amount of hate he was receiving constantly for his low stats..
Even pros including subroza, xeppa and also kanpeki.. Said that zombs was doing his job pretty well.. And he said that even shazam said this to him..
So that statement from shazam.. Seems more personaly.. And even if It's true.. You don't say things like that about your former teammate

i mean, if you look at it from a game pov and not a childs pov. zombs role was to just play support/selfless. not go frag like crazy. they have tenz, sick for that. every team has 1 player who plays that role, they come up clutch every now and then but other than that their entire role is to just enable others. if you just look at shaz from csgo day, hes a shit person in general lol. hes throwing zombs under the bus instead of trying to solve the issue. its how he bet items in csgo after knowing ibp fixed the match and later ratted them out after he got scread XD

#29
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This could be staged af between them and you're falling for it

They both love each other and they even drive the same fucking car

Keep hyping this trash talk up

Without this stuff people wouldn't even know this guys exist

#30
buldO
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axnav7 [#17]

i guarantee you his stream number s will go to shit once he retires because of his shitty personality he is just so easy to hate upon his actions and his attitude is the worst i have seen in any player he is like the opposite of pashabiceps the Ogs know who he is

i cant even fathom the idea of having shahzam as a CC even remotely compared to the god himself pasha

and remember, you are not my friend... you are my brother, my friend

#31
busterD
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Stream [#29]

This could be staged af between them and you're falling for it

They both love each other and they even drive the same fucking car

Keep hyping this trash talk up

Without this stuff people wouldn't even know this guys exist

You are right.
Shaz: bro imma ask the org to kick you and get a new player. but we got same cars, WE COO, WE COO!
Zombs: aite man, lets prank the blebs by me faking that im upset for being kicked and being called the reason for sentinels losing while i was there.
Shaz: BEST. PRANK. EVEEEEEEEEEEER !!!
Both drive away in their same cars.

#32
Depressed_TSM_Fan
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It’s funny co I agree with zombs

#33
BRONZIL_EZ
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Dear Sentinels fans, if you guys want them to try hard at pro, you guys should stop watching their stream especially their IGL. Fame and money already consumed their heads, which led them to motivation issues, inconsistency, et cetera. As long as you guys still giving them views and subs there's like no way these guys could compete at Pro level.

Or force them to become a content creator so they can focusing on stream and being more consistent at it.

OpTic won Iceland from group to playoffs with a total of 8 matches (these mfs had an insane mentality!) which proven their hardwork from doing a bootcamp and also keep improving their values since masters 2 last year (2nd runner-up). Even TSM are bootcamping now, also NRG soon do bootcamp for 2 months (got info from s0m stream today) starting from 23rd May if I'm not mistaken, and the other NA teams are improving as well.

With the current issues, Sentinels just a tier 2 team with a bunch of overrated content creator.

#34
cartman
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6o6f3paIdE" the team unfortunately isnt a democracy "
" i gave so much input on what we should do but he didnt wanna listen "

poor sick . poor tenz .

save them

#35
JustHunter
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ihsazal [#3]

I don't understand. Why does Shahzam react to everything? And also shit-talking about his former teammates won't do any good to his reputation.

give me one clip where hes talking shit about zombs.
istg man these sen flairs are running rampant with their garbage takes on vlr

#36
JustHunter
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ZOMBS IS TROLLING yall are actually getting played so hard its not even funny anymore

#37
JustHunter
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BRONZIL_EZ [#33]

Dear Sentinels fans, if you guys want them to try hard at pro, you guys should stop watching their stream especially their IGL. Fame and money already consumed their heads, which led them to motivation issues, inconsistency, et cetera. As long as you guys still giving them views and subs there's like no way these guys could compete at Pro level.

Or force them to become a content creator so they can focusing on stream and being more consistent at it.

OpTic won Iceland from group to playoffs with a total of 8 matches (these mfs had an insane mentality!) which proven their hardwork from doing a bootcamp and also keep improving their values since masters 2 last year (2nd runner-up). Even TSM are bootcamping now, also NRG soon do bootcamp for 2 months (got info from s0m stream today) starting from 23rd May if I'm not mistaken, and the other NA teams are improving as well.

With the current issues, Sentinels just a tier 2 team with a bunch of overrated content creator.

thats a bronzil take if ive ever heard one

#38
BRONZIL_EZ
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cartman [#34]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6o6f3paIdE" the team unfortunately isnt a democracy "
" i gave so much input on what we should do but he didnt wanna listen "

poor sick . poor tenz .

save them

agree, tenz and sick deserve better

#39
BRONZIL_EZ
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JustHunter [#37]

thats a bronzil take if ive ever heard one

W NA, L BRONZIL

#40
JustHunter
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GLHF [#23]

Shaz shouldn't reply to what zombs said in the first place.. And shouldn't get serious about it.. But that's who is.. Reply to every criticism toward him claiming that everyone else is wrong... And take everything personally and seriously..
I guess it started when zombs said that he have ideas that can fix sen problems.. And shaz replied that "he wonder why he didn't give this input before then while he still on the team"
Imo that's an agressive way to reply to ur former teammate.. And he may in fact have some good ideas to fix sen problems.. Maybe he didn't get the chance to say those ideas.. Or maybe he said them and no one listened to him..
I don't think that zombs was benched because of not being motivated enough.. It's obviously he was being benched after the amount of hate he was receiving constantly for his low stats..
Even pros including subroza, xeppa and also kanpeki.. Said that zombs was doing his job pretty well.. And he said that even shazam said this to him..
So that statement from shazam.. Seems more personaly.. And even if It's true.. You don't say things like that about your former teammate

bruh he isnt replying to zombs when he said that. Hes asking the chat a rhetorical question as to why he didnt say that shit when he was on the team and clearly the answer is BECAUSE ZOMBS CANT. The dude is hard baiting everyone and literally the entire valorant community is falling for it so hard it isnt even funny anymore.
Zombs is getting mad views rn cause people are actually coming to his stream because of this "Drama" so ofc hes gonna milk tf out of it

#41
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busterD [#28]

i mean, if you look at it from a game pov and not a childs pov. zombs role was to just play support/selfless. not go frag like crazy. they have tenz, sick for that. every team has 1 player who plays that role, they come up clutch every now and then but other than that their entire role is to just enable others. if you just look at shaz from csgo day, hes a shit person in general lol. hes throwing zombs under the bus instead of trying to solve the issue. its how he bet items in csgo after knowing ibp fixed the match and later ratted them out after he got scread XD

goddamn its been centuries and yall still talking abt ibp, its as if there is no other piece of evidence that might point to him being a bad person

#42
BoF7ooM
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busterD [#31]

You are right.
Shaz: bro imma ask the org to kick you and get a new player. but we got same cars, WE COO, WE COO!
Zombs: aite man, lets prank the blebs by me faking that im upset for being kicked and being called the reason for sentinels losing while i was there.
Shaz: BEST. PRANK. EVEEEEEEEEEEER !!!
Both drive away in their same cars.

what is this bro 💀😭

#43
busterD
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JackyTan [#5]

the problem with shahzam he always respond to all this and create more hate toward himself

He wants them view counts Booyyy

#44
busterD
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JustHunter [#41]

goddamn its been centuries and yall still talking abt ibp, its as if there is no other piece of evidence that might point to him being a bad person

If I robbed you a century ago, you’ll still have been robbed by me. Make sense donk: what’s with everyone’s defense of “oh it was so long ago” hehe
He’s clearly doing well in life, but doesn’t make him a good person. He’s just scapegoating zombs (he wasn’t the best player clearly) but still, that’s a shit thing to do.

#45
busterD
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JustHunter [#36]

ZOMBS IS TROLLING yall are actually getting played so hard its not even funny anymore

There’s some truth behind every lie.

#46
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busterD [#31]

You are right.
Shaz: bro imma ask the org to kick you and get a new player. but we got same cars, WE COO, WE COO!
Zombs: aite man, lets prank the blebs by me faking that im upset for being kicked and being called the reason for sentinels losing while i was there.
Shaz: BEST. PRANK. EVEEEEEEEEEEER !!!
Both drive away in their same cars.

Dude zombs decided to leave on his own he knew they need changes and he was the most hated among them! subroza even said that too. he "sacrificed" himself for the team wym? he knew they needed to make changes. shazam and zombs doing their best rn to profit from the current situation. they both do business together! for them its just trashtalking as a business. they know plebs like you will insta post it here and there and make them even more famous or get more viewers! you guys are really naive idiots

#47
looklook
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shahzam is such a fkn rat

#48
DELUSIONAL_LAKIA_FAN
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373washoooi [#18]

Sadge for zombs, feels like he got scapegoated.

he did to an extent. he was underperforming and him getting dropped was going to happen, but he was just a small part of whats wrong with the team.

the bigger issue with the team is their approach to the game, mappool, agent comps, etc etc...

#49
Elcatsu
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this is just some baiting to keep themselves relevant these days

#50
busterD
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Stream [#46]

Dude zombs decided to leave on his own he knew they need changes and he was the most hated among them! subroza even said that too. he "sacrificed" himself for the team wym? he knew they needed to make changes. shazam and zombs doing their best rn to profit from the current situation. they both do business together! for them its just trashtalking as a business. they know plebs like you will insta post it here and there and make them even more famous or get more viewers! you guys are really naive idiots

its all speculation. you think this way, i think that way. at the end of the day, youre a donkey.

#51
Nahboo
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Stream [#29]

This could be staged af between them and you're falling for it

They both love each other and they even drive the same fucking car

Keep hyping this trash talk up

Without this stuff people wouldn't even know this guys exist

Wdym drive the same car?

#52
Gyro
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the saddest part of all this drama is that TENZ wont get to perform at max potential
say what u will , but i truly believe if tenz can get in a good structured team like optic, gaurd or c9

he will make the team 10x better and will be easy top 5 in world

#53
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Nahboo [#51]

Wdym drive the same car?

zombs bought the exact same car shazam using

#54
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misclick

#55
Netero
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wtf

#56
Avix
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yeah this team needs more than just 1 roster change

#57
Netero
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looklook [#47]

shahzam is such a fkn rat

W

#58
lorenzopajaroFC
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JustHunter [#37]

thats a bronzil take if ive ever heard one

And it’s hilarious coming from someone whose persona is based around solely hating Brazilians, are you that dumb that you read “bronzil” in someone’s nick and assume they’re brazilian?

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