What the title says, people call a lot of teams X player & friends (ex: Tenz & friends/Cned & friends) but what do you think is the most severe case of a team getting dragged around by 1 player?
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Most severe case of X player & friends?
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I quite legitimately believe that Wardell and friends was the most serious case of this at some point. TenZ and friends he had at least had competent teammates who have gotten some success later on, it's just that they were all support players, that enabled TenZ very well. Whereas for Wardell and TSM, ummm, hazed was honestly pretty garbo at one point, before he picked up the viper honestly, Subroza was garbo until he got his hands on Skye, drone was overall pretty mid after phx started to fall off, and Cutler was the first to be dropped off which can say a lot.
Asphyxia [#10]I quite legitimately believe that Wardell and friends was the most serious case of this at some point. TenZ and friends he had at least had competent teammates who have gotten some success later on, it's just that they were all support players, that enabled TenZ very well. Whereas for Wardell and TSM, ummm, hazed was honestly pretty garbo at one point, before he picked up the viper honestly, Subroza was garbo until he got his hands on Skye, drone was overall pretty mid after phx started to fall off, and Cutler was the first to be dropped off which can say a lot.
wait nvm i see people saying skrossi and friends, that's a much better example actually. but I still do believe that TenZ and friends in C9 wasn't as bad as people made it to be, BC TENZ BUILT THE TEAM, he asked for those players and that's what he got LOL.
kristof [#7]tenz and friends
https://imgur.com/a/iXdVpJ6
How would they win maps with their duelist under 275 acs if they don't win maps in the first place KEKW.
Asphyxia [#13]wait nvm i see people saying skrossi and friends, that's a much better example actually. but I still do believe that TenZ and friends in C9 wasn't as bad as people made it to be, BC TENZ BUILT THE TEAM, he asked for those players and that's what he got LOL.
Was mitch as good then as he is now? If so, I can't imagine you can call old c9 tenz and friends
I_despise_pretzels [#16]Was mitch as good then as he is now? If so, I can't imagine you can call old c9 tenz and friends
m0tch was never good, got exposed at champs
Seriously to answer your question, yeah he was a lot worse honestly, and shinobi was terrible
I_despise_pretzels [#16]Was mitch as good then as he is now? If so, I can't imagine you can call old c9 tenz and friends
Mitch is god himself, he was always perfect, jkjk he's gotten much better over the years.
but this doesn't take away from the fact that he has always been a great sentinel player. I think it was just the exact mixture of players because they were all practically support players, which poured resources into tenz. I mean you can call it TenZ and friends based off of stats, but I think they all played a part in TenZ's magic, so it would be hard for me to say that it was exactly that.
but it technically was TenZ and friends because he did just ask C9 to sign a bunch of his friends to play with him.
I rather think that it's a very disrespectful thing to say to the other players unless they were actually dragging the star player down, but old C9 was not the fault of one player alone, it was more of a structural problem.
ciro [#17]m0tch was never good, got exposed at champs
Seriously to answer your question, yeah he was a lot worse honestly, and shinobi was terrible
@delusional_mitch_fan come look at this clown.
CIRO, I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU'VE DONE THIS, AFTER ALL WE'VE BEEN THROUGH D:
Asphyxia [#19]@delusional_mitch_fan come look at this clown.
CIRO, I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU'VE DONE THIS, AFTER ALL WE'VE BEEN THROUGH D:
I have become a delusional godvera simp
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