Liquid need a true Jett player and someone like Cned is the perfect fit tbh. They will have to - Soulcas but I think it works out well. Scream can play Skye and Kayo permanently while Cned can play Jett and Sage. Jamppi can go full time on Sova and Link plays smokes with Nivera flexing.
Also financially Liquid has tons of sponsors and money to buyout Cned.
Tokyo777 [#2]tbh they need a igl....rather than jett
Yeah but you know, Cned is better than a good igl when your current one isn't trash
Tokyo777 [#2]tbh they need a igl....rather than jett
Jamppi can IGL well but their role situation is a problem. Scream has his aim so he can play anything and be impactful but sometimes Jamppi plays Jett and IGLs while Scream takes it in Breach which is not very stable.
Giannero [#4]Yeah but you know, Cned is better than a good igl when your current one isn't trash
Jamppi is a good player but im not sure about his IGLing, im sure he would be playing a lot better if IGL role was taken off him
Shownu [#5]Jamppi can IGL well but their role situation is a problem. Scream has his aim so he can play anything and be impactful but sometimes Jamppi plays Jett and IGLs while Scream takes it in Breach which is not very stable.
i think igling as a duelist isn't that bad, plus if you die first you can see everyone lol
TomiZubi [#9]i think igling as a duelist isn't that bad, plus if you die first you can see everyone lol
Thats not how it works LMAO.
TomiZubi [#9]i think igling as a duelist isn't that bad, plus if you die first you can see everyone lol
D3ffo would make a wonderful igl then lol, since his role is literally "Get traded"
Shownu [#5]Jamppi can IGL well but their role situation is a problem. Scream has his aim so he can play anything and be impactful but sometimes Jamppi plays Jett and IGLs while Scream takes it in Breach which is not very stable.
https://clips.twitch.tv/HyperSourClipzM4xHeh-HwCIwK-xr-gFT47m
Gqviria [#12]The main Liquid problem is literally changing roles every week, the only way to be the best is by practice, and you won't get any practice if you play 10 different agents in the span of 2 weeks.
their main problem is and almost always has been IGLing
GLN321 [#15]their main problem is and almost always has been IGLing
IGLing is important but having set roles can also make things comfortable for everyone. Jamppi probably doesnt feel comfortable doing it because there are so many role uncertainties and set plays. When you IGL you need to have a specific agent setup in mind but when everyone plays different things in different maps then it becomes hard to strat and antistrat.
figaroo [#18]The value of the jett is declining and probably she will get a nerf.
Jett is the face of Valorant tbh. The whole identity about Valorant is with Jett so it will always be an important and impacful role.
GLN321 [#15]their main problem is and almost always has been IGLing
How come when Jamppi joined they managed to make Iceland, probably the worst take is saying someone's IGLing is bad cause that sometimes that is kept literally in the game.
Shownu [#19]Jett is the face of Valorant tbh. The whole identity about Valorant is with Jett so it will always be an important and impacful role.
don't be so sure. wait for next patch after iceland
Gqviria [#20]How come when Jamppi joined they managed to make Iceland, probably the worst take is saying someone's IGLing is bad cause that sometimes that is kept literally in the game.
https://clips.twitch.tv/HyperSourClipzM4xHeh-HwCIwK-xr-gFT47m just listen to this clip. This aren't my words
Gqviria [#20]How come when Jamppi joined they managed to make Iceland, probably the worst take is saying someone's IGLing is bad cause that sometimes that is kept literally in the game.
Jamppi has always been uncomfortable as an IGL and back then Jamppi wasnt the IGL
Shownu [#17]IGLing is important but having set roles can also make things comfortable for everyone. Jamppi probably doesnt feel comfortable doing it because there are so many role uncertainties and set plays. When you IGL you need to have a specific agent setup in mind but when everyone plays different things in different maps then it becomes hard to strat and antistrat.
Yeah but almost every top european team asides from FNATIC has been flexing roles, G2, FPX, M3C, Guild... Even in NA with OpTic. I don't think that's what's separating them from other tier 1 teams
figaroo [#21]don't be so sure. wait for next patch after iceland
They know how important Jett is for the game and the pro scene. She can do the most flashiest plays with her kit. They wouldnt kill their viewership by nerfing her.
GLN321 [#24]Yeah but almost every top european team asides from FNATIC has been flexing roles, G2, FPX, M3C, Guild... Even in NA with OpTic. I don't think that's what's separating them from other tier 1 teams
G2 literally play one dimensional. They go A in Icebox 85% of the time and still win comfortably past the anti-strats. Nukkye is calling and performing on duelists and he plays Sova.
GLN321 [#22]https://clips.twitch.tv/HyperSourClipzM4xHeh-HwCIwK-xr-gFT47m just listen to this clip. This aren't my words
"No one feels comfortable IGLing" As the guy above said, is hard IGLing when every map you have new agents, new strats, new set plays and new things to worry about. Like if you play Sentinel in Split, you have abilities to cover areas and give you info, then the next week you play no sentinel and you have the main issue of not having enough eyes in the map.
"We'll probably gonna try one more thing IGL wise..." That suggest Jamppi might have not been IGLing the past weeks or Sliggy has changed his way of IGLing which makes Sliggy the "weak link" not Jamppi.
Shownu [#25]They know how important Jett is for the game and the pro scene. She can do the most flashiest plays with her kit. They wouldnt kill their viewership by nerfing her.
kill their viewership???? lol. you are exaggerating. I would like to see yoru instead of jett
Giannero [#11]D3ffo would make a wonderful igl then lol, since his role is literally "Get traded"
an actual good one lmao
Gqviria [#28]"No one feels comfortable IGLing" As the guy above said, is hard IGLing when every map you have new agents, new strats, new set plays and new things to worry about. Like if you play Sentinel in Split, you have abilities to cover areas and give you info, then the next week you play no sentinel and you have the main issue of not having enough eyes in the map.
"We'll probably gonna try one more thing IGL wise..." That suggest Jamppi might have not been IGLing the past weeks or Sliggy has changed his way of IGLing which makes Sliggy the "weak link" not Jamppi.
This clip was from the c9 vs the guard watch party, just two days ago. They're probably going to do these changes now in scrims.
As the guy above said, is hard IGLing when every map you have new agents, new strats, new set plays and new things to worry about.
My point is that this is going to be the case for valorant for the future. I dont think you will be able to run the same strats comps and set plays every game. Of course IGLing isn't going to be easy, but that's the case for every other major team aswell, yet it's Liquid who have been suffering precisely because their players aren't dedicated IGLs
LouBag [#16]-soulcas
+bonecoldLet jamppi focus on playing.
I am a huge fan of soulcas, but liquid need a true IGL and Soulcas is the only player I could see liquid dropping.
soulcas is really good imo
bandwagondestroyer [#34]soulcas is really good imo
I agree, I just don’t know who else they would drop.
LouBag [#36]I agree, I just don’t know who else they would drop.
they shouldnt, just try to work around it, and sliggy has something in mind recently, so lets see it
LouBag [#36]I agree, I just don’t know who else they would drop.
You don't need to drop anyone. I feel having set roles would help
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